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Do you believe in trance without breakdowns? (pg. 2)
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| s3nate |
| quote: | Originally posted by gizzymcg
You talk baws. When the energy in a set is at its highest nothing and I MEAN nothing brings the crowd up to another level like a huge euphoric track with a sweeping break. When a DJ if good enough they are able to drop the energy back into his/her set and the result of the huge tune will lift lifted the crowd up to go even harder. Believe me years of clubbing have taught me this! |
Yes those songs are okay at the highest party of energy in the night. But not every damn ing song!
I haven't been listening to trance as long as some of you but already I am getting annoyed by these 1+ min breakdowns. So now all you find me listening to is Oldschool trance, house and techno. There is still some breakdowns but at most they are 15 seconds long. I am pretty sure people will stop making the breakdown the most important thing soon (its already partly showing, just go look at some of the songs PVD played in his Jahre Maximal set). |
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| Sykonee |
Breakdowns have veen used in trance since the very beginning. The difference in the old days though, is they were done at the peak or climax of a song after a long, slow tension builder throughout the course of the track. Age Of Love is probably the most common example of why this technique was so good.
Somewhere along the line, these breakdowns got shifted to the first introduction of the main melody after a rhythmic intro, probably done more to serve DJs than anything else. Fortunately, they mostly kept these brief pauses short and to the point, usually lasting no more than 16-32 'beats'.
Then along comes a certain Dutchman who milks this latter technique with longer breaks and makes a pretty coin from it because no one else has been doing it with such 'catchy' hooks, making these more drawn-out breakdowns just as entertaining to listen to as the main course. Of course, this had also been done on occasion in the past (Jam & Spoon's Path Of Harmony, anyone?) but never to the success as it did when Corsten did it. With such success comes countless imitators and a sludge of samey copycats doing the exact same thing over and over and over. For some reason, this becomes the only way a trance record can be made, and anything that doesn't follow this strict pattern is instantly labeled as either psy, tech, or whatever new-fangled genre the EDM mags come up with.
It seems producers are slowly but surely finally moving away from this technique though, if anything because it isn't nearly as bankable as it used to be. Amusingly, because the breakdown had been such a staple in trance for so long, this fresh wave of breakdown-less trance is now considered something 'new & exciting'!:haha: |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Or you could not listen to EDM and ignore the whole retarded breakdown structure that infests 90% of it. |
OR!!!
yea, ok.
*looks for Come To Daddy cd* |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | | Do you believe in trance without breakdowns? |
hell yes. |
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| RJOllos |
I don't think this is a stupid question as some people have suggested. I think the questions is better phrased as, why does every trance track nowadays have a major breakdown? ... and i found some interesting reponses in this thread.
I have thought the same thing before, because when i mix a set i find that the set doesn't flow well when i mix track after track that have a major breakdown. On the other hand, the set is much more interesting if if several tracks build up to a track that has a major breakdown. |
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| Donkeyness |
I believe in three things:
1. If it wanted to, a penguin could fly if it had a party
2. You would fly too if it happened to you
3. Trance without breakdowns does exist |
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| mzvirbulis |
| hell yeah! its just up to the producer to paint the picture!;) |
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| Donkeyness |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Age Of Love is probably the most common example of why this technique was so good. |
which mix would that be. |
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| Cobalt |
| Worst. Topic. Ever. :haha: |
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| Rainborn |
| quote: | That's an extremely stupid question to be honest.
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Lol why?
| quote: | | Worst. Topic. Ever. |
Not really, a rather good one actually.
After all, this is a tad serious.
But really, I don't think you can do so many other structures than this one and a trance song with no regular breakdown. I mean, sure there's probably a few more ways of gettting past that problem, but not many.
Why?
Because having a breakdown or not having a breakdown is like turning off and on the light. |
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| mylespower |
| quote: | Originally posted by gizzymcg
You talk baws. When the energy in a set is at its highest nothing and I MEAN nothing brings the crowd up to another level like a huge euphoric track with a sweeping break. When a DJ if good enough they are able to drop the energy back into his/her set and the result of the huge tune will lift lifted the crowd up to go even harder. Believe me years of clubbing have taught me this! |
+1 |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Donkeyness
which mix would that be. |
The Jam & Spoon "We Plug Our Own Songs In Our Remix Titles" Mix. |
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