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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquarian
I'm not trying to start an argument, all I'm saying is if you don't give a what the terms mean, you shouldn't use them. |
Conservatives are for government deregulation of businesses.
Liberals are about making tons of social programs that dont work which tax payers have to pay for.
Where does religion fit into that scheme? |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Conservatives are for government deregulation of businesses.
Liberals are about making tons of social programs that dont work which tax payers have to pay for. |
Either you know that there is far more to it than that and are deliberately simplifying it provoke him; or you really think it is that simple, in which case you really don't know what the terms you're using mean. |
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| klingklang77 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
BTW, I thought I should add, that most of these retards are liberals. :p |
why are you bringing political views into a quote religious unquote (scientology isnt a religion) thread?
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
This is about religious views, not political affiliation. If you want to start a political war, do it in the PPD cause, honestly, I really dont give a . |
your 2 statements contradict each other. make some sense for once (but you voted for bush. sure we all make mistakes, but you seem to STILL support him). as someone said before, you probably watch too much fox news.
the original thread is about how i feel scientology is wierd and how i think what tom cruise plans to put his newborn into is damaging. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by klingklang77
why are you bringing political views into a quote religious unquote (scientology isnt a religion) thread?
your 2 statements contradict each other. make some sense for once (but you voted for bush. sure we all make mistakes, but you seem to STILL support him). as someone said before, you probably watch too much fox news.
the original thread is about how i feel scientology is wierd and how i think what tom cruise plans to put his newborn into is damaging. |
First off it was a joke. Secondly dont assume I like Bush because I see things alittle more conservatively - I think Bush is a retard, but hes a lesser retard than Kerry. There are no qualified people out there to run for president, so we have to deal with what we get for now until a real candidate steps up to the plate. I can and sometimes do view things from both sides of the political spectrum - there are things that liberals do right and a bunch they do wrong, and the vise versa is true too, but with that kind of view you cant be considered as "serious" in the political spectrum, you have to choose a side or youre considered nothing. |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
False. Conservatives are people of "god". Not of aliens. |
as are some liberals. hard to believe that some liberals are religious also isn't it. you're a fool for making backhanded comments like that on a regular basis about left-leaners |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
as are some liberals. hard to believe that some liberals are religious also isn't it. |
I never said that liberals werent. |
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| trunks1022 |
| ok but a mockery isn't being made of theology and religion itself. a big deal is made about politics/gov and religion are strange bedfellows. what happened to the separation of these two distinct institutions? |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
ok but a mockery isn't being made of theology and religion itself. a big deal is made about politics/gov and religion are strange bedfellows. what happened to the separation of these two distinct institutions? |
Can you please show me where in the constitution it says that there is a separation between church and state? |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by Protege
dismissing reliegion entirely is also retarded. |
I didn't say i was dismissing it
Show me one good thing religion has brought into this world and I'll show you 100 bad things...
people turn to religion as a shelter and a sanctuary, and yet religion is the cause of most problems in the world
It's an endless circle |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
I didn't say i was dismissing it
Show me one good thing religion has brought into this world and I'll show you 100 bad things... |
I would say that it isn't religion itself that brings the bad things, but a seemingly inherent human propensity to appropriate and misuse ideologies for personal gain. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Azz3D
people turn to religion as a shelter and a sanctuary, and yet religion is the cause of most problems in the world
It's an endless circle |
Its a never ending battle between who has a better imaginary friend. |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Can you please show me where in the constitution it says that there is a separation between church and state? |
"...were integrated into the U.S. Constitution with the passing of the Bill of Rights containing the First Amendment. The clause of the First Amendment that adopted the founders' principles of separation of church and state and freedom of religion is known as the Establishment Clause. It states, and notice the word Congress and only Congress, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separa...ates_of_America
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
"In separationist interpretation, the clause, as historically understood, prohibits Congress from aiding religion in any way even if such aid is made without regard to denomination. The second approach is called the "non-preferentialist" or "accommodationist" interpretation. The accommodationist interpretation prohibits Congress from preferring one religion over another, but does not prohibit the government's entry into religious domain to make accommodations in order to achieve the purposes of the Free Exercise Clause."
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause
granted it proves both of our points. you say it's not explicit, but separation of church and state has been inferred from that one clause in the constitution since it was written up in the bill of rights.
but for me i'm worried to see a religious group having such sway in an administration's policies. that's my only point.
now if bush and scientologists were working together, i might have a good laugh |
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