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Seduction,Pick-up website/book/video recommendations? (pg. 2)
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wizniz
quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
noob, if u read any of those sites you'll realize it's like fight club.
dont talk about it.

congrats, you just made it THAT much harder for yourself and the rest of us. :D


lol +1 i never went to any of those!

...sarging phila this weekend?
Caela
quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Plus heres the general rule.

A girl says she would like to go out with, and how the guy originally is -

- a caring guy who'll love her bring her flowers etc etc etc and all that mushy stuff

(most of the time) what the guy turns into:

- a generic idiot with a stupid haircut that treats her like


fixed.
THE_Chris
Oh very clever :D
DJ RJT
quote:
Originally posted by Excite
When you learn about human psychology at a deeper level you'll realize things are what they seem..watch behavior and learn. much of this behaviour is engrained in the subconciousness at the primal level..it behavior that is projected by women.


You are making incredibly broad and vague generalizations about a subject and issue that are far more complex than you obviously understand.

What behaviour is engrained in the subconciousness at a primal level? Which behaviours are we to watch? What things are quote "what they seem?" What is this "Deep" level of human psychology we need to learn about?

This is perhaps the least specific post I've ever seen. Sorry man, but come up with some legitimate reasons as to why you seem to think that all woman give bad advice. This vague explanation reeks of BS.

Quite frankly, I think the answer to all your questions is that you simply lack the confidence to engage the real world on your own and sort out for yourself the social norms that dictate the kind of interaction you seek in your area. Instead, you choose to look to these "self help" materials for the easy solution.
wizniz
self help
+ real world utilization =

reached goal
lücid
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Myra, youre wonderful but girls are seriously the worst people on earth to get advice from. They say all the romantic stuff they want and I ended up getting my first girlfriend by emailing her at midnight asking if she wanted to come over and get drunk and play video games.

weve been dating for 4 months now hehe.

all those flowers and crap are NOTHIGN! D:

dumb and/or inexperienced girls will tell you that they want that generic romantic just because they do in fact have no in' clue what they want. they're just repeating what's been force-fed to them over the course of their lifetime by family/friends/media/etc... without ever stopping to think about what they really want, because they're so worried about fitting in with the "normal" social standards.

those are the girls who will tell you they want romance... then a week later they're dating the town (because he's exciting, right?!), getting cheated on, crying to their friends because they "never saw it coming" and then finally running back to their boyfriend because they're so insecure they're afraid they'll never find anyone better.

yeah, i wouldn't take advice from those girls either. ;)

luckily there are girls out there who know exactly what they want, and how to get it. unfortunately for you single guys out there, most of them already have boyfriends.
wizniz
lucid you have to acknoledge the fact that you are an extremely rare breed of women for being american...
DJ RJT
quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
lucid you have to acknoledge the fact that you are an extremely rare breed of women for being american...


yeah dude... she's dating me... :nervous:
lücid
www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com

Ron Louis and David Copeland are dating coaches and authors of the best-selling "How to Succeed with Women" (Prentice Hall Press, 1998), "How to Succeed With Men" (Prentice-Hall Press, 2000), and "Sex Lover's Book of Lists" (Prentice Hall Press, 2001), and the creators of "The Mastery Program: Your Step-by-Step Course in Meeting, Flirting With, Dating and Seducing the Women of Your Dreams.

Louis and Copeland have appeared as Dating Gurus on numerous television shows, including the NBC game show "To Tell the Truth," "The Roseanne Show," CNN, UPN, ABC, Good Morning LA, Good Day New York, and Fox news.


these guys also hold seminars/workshops where they coach guys on how to approach and talk to women with confidence, among numerous other techniques. i actually worked at one of their workshops in Madison WI about a year ago as one of the girls they have to practice talking to.

a lot of the stuff they teach is just common sense, but the way they present it is very effective and easily understood by guys who have very low confidence and self-esteem problems.

like this though, is just taking it a lil too far. :stongue:
THE_Chris
quote:
Originally posted by lücid
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Sounds true, but I'd say the stats go like this

5% decent women who dont care about flowers etc and are more interested in who they are going out with
95% idiots who get angry if they're NOT bought flowers one day

Caela
i think that there should be 3 basic requirements for a successful relationship:

1. no lying.
2. no cheating.
3. mutual respect.

if you have those, you don't need material "reminders" of the fact that you love each other. those 3 should say enough.
lücid
quote:
Originally posted by Caela
i think that there should be 3 basic requirements for a successful relationship:

1. no lying.
2. no cheating.
3. mutual respect.

if you have those, you don't need material "reminders" of the fact that you love each other. those 3 should say enough.

those 3 things should exist without even having to say or expect anything. i mean they all basically fall under the general category of "respect" and i think if you can't even respect someone then you shouldn't be in a relationship to begin with.

by saying that you expect only respect, that's putting your standards pretty low. anyone can be honest, faithful, and respectful... but that's not what makes you fall in love with someone. they're important qualities - qualities we all look for in a partner - but they're definitely not the base of a successful relationship. i think what keeps people happy and in love are the unique and special things that first attracted you to your partner... things that other people can't provide.

i mean, think about it this way... when you're in a serious relationship with someone, and they do something to make your heart melt and remind you why you love them so much, it's definitely not going to be "awww omg what a sweetheart he didn't cheat on me!"... it's stuff like "omg he remembered that blueberries are my favorite fruit!"
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