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In London Ontario, you must be 18 or older to buy.....................MARKERS?
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| Jayx1 |
Another misguided attempt at "feel good" justice. I weep for the future of this country.
| quote: | Canadian first as London limits graffiti tool sales
Tue, May 2, 2006
By JOE BELANGER, FREE PRESS CITY HALL REPORTER
London is the first city in Canada to fight graffiti by banning sale of markers and spray paint to minors.
Meanwhile, a two-hour debate settled little on whether to ban pesticides, with council settling only on a date and information to be presented at a public meeting.
"It took some hard work, but we're the first in Canada to do this and I think it's great," said Coun. Bernie MacDonald, who spearheaded the graffiti bylaw.
Several council members, led by Coun. David Winninger and Controller Russ Monteith, both lawyers, argued the bylaw discriminates against youth, violating Canadian Charter of Rights.
Both warned a ban could leave the city vulnerable to a legal challenge.
"It's ludicrous," Winninger said. "It's offensive to the Charter of Rights. It's not reasonable that it can be justified in a free and democratic society."
But others on council, including Coun. Cheryl Miller whose Ward 5 takes in much of the core and Old East Village, welcomed the ban. "We need to take back the city," she said.
And Coun. Roger Caranci said the bylaw "is not a ban, it's a control. (Minors) can go to the store with their parents to buy them."
London police supported a ban, offering evidence suggesting minors are more often than not wielding spray cans and markers.
In the last two years, 25 of 42 people arrested for making graffiti were under 18, while 92 of 126 people seen but not caught were minors.
Also, MainStreet London backed the ban, noting the London Downtown Business Association spends $25,000 a year removing graffiti.
MacDonald and others argued a city heavily marked by graffiti gives visitors the impression it's crime ridden and no one cares.
U.S. cities have cracked down on spray paint sales, but no Canadian city has, police and city staff said.
MacDonald said the city hopes to provide locations and opportunities for artists and youth to express themselves through graffiti art, including murals on buildings.
On pesticides, council moved a public meeting to May 24 and, if needed, May 25, since no major civic facilities were available May 29.
Instead of presenting one bylaw to the public, staff were instructed to report on major issues, questions and options, along with examples of other municipalities' bylaws. |
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| Fir3start3r |
Yea, because you just can't find those lying around anywhere
Apparently all other problems have been solved in London...:rolleyes: |
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| The Highroller |
| LOL! This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| Good for London....I say we ban the sale of any product to those under 18. Damn kids shouldn't be spending mom and dads money anyhow. |
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| psychosomatica |
| heh. the government trying to look useful yet again. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
LOL! This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. |
no more stupid than other bans from the past few days including
-banning garage sales
-banning home repair on sundays
These types of laws stem from THE EXACT SAME STYLE OF THINKING. So think before you support laws like these because one day the same methodology may come back to bite you in the ass. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Good for London....I say we ban the sale of any product to those under 18. Damn kids shouldn't be spending mom and dads money anyhow. |
LOL |
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| [NFC]Wave |
We also can't buy compressed air either at Future Shop/Best Buy because kids were trying to get high off of the fumes.
Stupid kids, they should just come to TA. :rolleyes: |
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| Dj XtReMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
LOL! This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. |
"johnny why didn't u finish ur project?"
"because i can't buy markers u stupid ing bitch" |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
We also can't buy compressed air either at Future Shop/Best Buy because kids were trying to get high off of the fumes.
Stupid kids, they should just come to TA. :rolleyes: |
Lets make sure nothing happens by banning ALL AIR. Whats stopping kids from taking air and compressing it themselves? It has never happened.... BUT IT COULD!!! I say we pass a bylaw banning air immediately! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
We also can't buy compressed air either at Future Shop/Best Buy because kids were trying to get high off of the fumes.
Stupid kids, they should just come to TA. :rolleyes: |
How the hell do you get high off of compressed air???
It's... just...compressed...air....wtf :wtf: |
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| Dj XtReMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
How the hell do you get high off of compressed air???
It's... just...compressed...air....wtf :wtf: |
apparently were too dumb to not know how to get high off air :haha: |
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