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Harper says national media is biased (pg. 4)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
been there, done that myself and taken people there too...
I wasn't disputing that our emerg. wait times are ridiculous and unacceptable...I was disputing that someone actually has to live here to know that this is unacceptable ;) |
Id say so. For example, we all talk as if we know everything about the US but we wouldnt know what its actually like unless we lived there. |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wyndham
lol i'll repeat - Can you actually explain how the original article shows Harper chose to give a response, specifically to this paper, and specifically this topic, all because he thought it would be to his advantage to do so?... you obviously can't, hence, what was the point of the original link
im just taking shots at the liberals, obviously there's media bias both ways, but harper at least ran his campaign using facts to his advantage, the ad scandle etc, i thought it was obvious what i was talking about but guess not. On the other hand, the liberals ran a smear campaign.
Whos knows what new leadership is gonna do for the liberals, i dont think they're going to have that great a showing no matter who is leader. Its going to take a lot more than just a leader for them to fully recover. |
I didn't post the link, I tried to make sense of it, it wasnt a strong link and I;m not quite sure that person posted it. I dont really care what it's point was regardless, if I were to choose a link it would ANYTHING related to the conservative choice to bring on a republican spinster.
I am taking shots on the conservatives because they have no place in canada.
As for the new leader, it all depends on who they choose, full recovering will be hard, but people like myself beleive very strongly that it is always the liberals election to lose. |
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| simms327 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I dont agree with the 1200 a year daycare subsidy in his budget. Why should the state raise your child? I dont agree with the sports equipment deduction either for the same reason.
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hear hear!
esp the sports equip deduction... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
I am taking shots on the conservatives because they have no place in canada.
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Obviously they do since 43% of canada would vote for them today.
I hate the NDP and most of what they stand for. But i can still see why they have a place in our country. |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by daves
save it...
that's what you are,
that's what jayx1 is,
that's what a few people are,
why do you guys keep coming up with bull filler talk to justify your pro-party stances? it's not very convincing. |
lol y waste your time, you could say the same about a lot of liberals supporters, Im not as pro conservative as i might sound, i just enjoy debating, im more anti liberal right now than anything, but my stance is based on something, their horrible track record, unlike the people reaming out the conservatives, based on what? speculation? hidden agendas? his persona? etc etc. Harpers in office, hes got his chance, he s up hes out. But doesn't look like thats happening. Now the liberals have a chance to rebuild and its gonna take quite a while, 1 new leader isn't the answer, so keep supporting those liberals.. u'll get there one day, and if harpers as bad as u all say.. maybe i'll be there too.
o and if you would be so kind as to quote some of the bs filler i've posted i'd appreciate it...but somehow i doubt u'll bother.
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
I am taking shots on the conservatives because they have no place in canada.
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common smarten up, they won the election. how do they have no place in canada, just because u didn't vote for them?? Ur gonna be really bitter come next election. |
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| Hantu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I dont agree with the 1200 a year daycare subsidy in his budget. Why should the state raise your child? I dont agree with the sports equipment deduction either for the same reason. |
I hate the $1200/yr daycare subsidy, but I liked the liberals subsidized daycare plan. I mean if you want to help support parents then put the money directly into the programs already in place or create more daycare programs, don't just write a check every month to the parents. I mean come on how many parents do you know that will actually use this money properly? Alot will, but a greater amount will not. |
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| Spam |
Daycare is a farce. I went to daycare, I don't have a single happy memory from daycare, I can think of many things I hated about daycare. Daycare workers who were always angry, watered-down powdered milk, disgusting food I was forced to eat to participate in fun events, being forced to sleep even though my parents specifically asked them not to let me have a nap as I wouldn't sleep at night, I could go on for hours complaining about daycare and everything that's wrong with it. And that's just based on personal experience.
I liked it when I had a baby-sitter, there was more of a connection, you knew that the person cared about you. I remember the names of all my babysitters before and after daycare, and have fond memories of things I did, movies I watched, meals I ate, lessons I learned... I remember ONE daycare worker, her name was Karen, she was my substitute teacher in grade 6 as well, that's why I remember her.
Daycare is a nightmare for kids, it was a nightmare for my brother and me, it was a nightmare for my friends who went to daycare. Any parent who cares about their kids would do well to AVOID it. I know a daycare worker who sends her kids to a babysitter, she refuses to put them in daycare, and for good reason. Stats have shown that kids who grow up in institutionalized daycare grow up to be more aggressive and anti-social. That alone would make me want to avoid it, the watered-down powdered milk is reason 2, I'll never put my kids through the nightmare that is daycare.
It's not the government's job to take care of our kids anyway, but society right now refuses to take responsibility for anything and passes the buck onto the government. But since parents ARE getting something now, remember, if you SAVE that 100 bucks a month instead of spending it, after interest, that 7000 or so dollars turns into well over 15 grand if memory serves, by the time the kid turns 18, ANY parent could put them through college/university. I'd take 15 grand over another backlogged, poorly-run, government program that's nothing more than a blackhole that sucks in cash. You think a billion dollars a year is enough to run a national daycare system? That ammounts to LESS than the 100 dollars a month the conservatives are giving parents. Remember the gun registry? It wasn't supposed to cost any more than, what was it? 20 million or so the Liberals claimed? And now, a billion dollars later...
The government needs to stop giving in to public pressure to take responsibility from the individual. People need to learn that their actions have consequences, if you can't afford a kid, you shouldn't have stuck it to her. You were drunk? You shoulda stayed sober! Now, don't get me wrong, I know that people up, it's in our nature. But man up and take responsibility for your own actions people, it's not the government's job (and thus, the taxpayer's) to pay for your stupid mistakes! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hantu
I hate the $1200/yr daycare subsidy, but I liked the liberals subsidized daycare plan. I mean if you want to help support parents then put the money directly into the programs already in place or create more daycare programs, don't just write a check every month to the parents. I mean come on how many parents do you know that will actually use this money properly? Alot will, but a greater amount will not. |
We cant even handle public health care and now we want the state to raise our kids?
No thanks |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wyndham
common smarten up, they won the election. how do they have no place in canada, just because u didn't vote for them?? Ur gonna be really bitter come next election. |
I beleive that Harper is A-Canadian, he is presidentialising the Prime Ministers post. That makes me very uncomfortable.
It seems rather obvious that I didnt vote for him, and clearly from my posting I am rather concerned with the direction that voters took in voting for Harper.
bitter, ok....but how does that concern you? - or does that fact that people like me who wade in our bitterness only become more and more motivated to affect change? I am very excited at the posibilities that new liberal leadership will bring to Canada IF they choose a good leader...not the current placeholder, who is a quasi-autocrat. |
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| Jayx1 |
Im quite happy with the possibilities of the current government. Especially the possibilities that have already happened.
The liberals talked and talked and talked about change for 13 years. We now have a prime minister who actually acts on his word. No multimillion dollar studies, no BS |
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| MarkT |
^^^ all that means is that you prefer action over inaction, which is fine.
but action itself doesn't mean that it's "good" action (e.g. his daycare "solution" is a ing joke, regardless of what you feel about the previous Liberal plan). |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
OTTAWA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper says the national media are biased against him so he will avoid them from now on.
The prime minister says the Ottawa press gallery seems to have decided to become the opposition to his Conservative government. He told a London, Ont., TV station Wednesday that he is having problems with the media that a Liberal prime minister would never have to face. So Harper says he will take his message out on the road and deal with the less hostile local media.
Two dozen Ottawa reporters walked out on a Harper event this week when he refused to take their questions. The prime minister does not want to hold press conferences unless his staff gets to pick which journalists ask questions. The Ottawa press gallery has refused to play by those rules.
Harper has grumbled publicly about an anti-Conservative bias in the media before - but not since becoming prime minister. Ironically, Liberals have recently been convinced of the contrary. In the dying days of the last election campaign, Paul Martin's staff grumbled that reporters were out to get them and were working to elect Harper. |
This is also the same claim the Bush administration made of the American media before they created their own little alternate and false reality in which they now govern.
It is also the same idea the Nazi party used to start their propeganda machine with the German people.
There's one thing to understand with the media, is that it should be free. Allowing a government to control the information about it's policies and decisions ultimately leads to corruption, abuse of power, and misinformation being presented to the public.
Being a politician is a tough job, but you have to be accountable for the choices you make, because you're entrusted to make them for all of the citizens. If you allow the politicians to choose who gets to relay the information about policy, you essentially choose what gets released to the public. Just look at Fox News, the beakon of informative, investigative, and unbiased opinion that it is as a prime example.
I can live with a little bias, but what I can't live with is in the masses of people who only understand and believe what the government tells them to.
Sorry jay, I think you're really on the wrong side of this issue. |
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