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| ThaMaestro |
125-140 => starting a set @ +/- 125, ending @ +/- 140
by the way guys, can anybody help me with this question:
how do raise the BPM / speed up the tempo, when you're doing a set? it's not easily done when mixing one record into another record, since u have to match the beats ... right?
can anybody give me helpful advice? i want to know, cauz' i'd like to start off a set very chilly, with some house/progressive (120 BPM or a bit more), and later on, gain up towards higher BPM's (around 140) for tracks like Randy Katana - In Silence (TxiTxarro mix) or Joris Voorn - Lost Memories pt. 2 => thats sorta stuff/records.
cheers, n thnx in advance! |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
125-140 => starting a set @ +/- 125, ending @ +/- 140
by the way guys, can anybody help me with this question:
how do raise the BPM / speed up the tempo, when you're doing a set? it's not easily done when mixing one record into another record, since u have to match the beats ... right?
can anybody give me helpful advice? i want to know, cauz' i'd like to start off a set very chilly, with some house/progressive (120 BPM or a bit more), and later on, gain up towards higher BPM's (around 140) for tracks like Randy Katana - In Silence (TxiTxarro mix) or Joris Voorn - Lost Memories pt. 2 => thats sorta stuff/records.
cheers, n thnx in advance! |
Soooo
W/tables normally there is only +/- 8% Soo even if you push the pitch as high as you can, its basically impossible to go 120 to 140.
If you want after the 8th bar you can quickly change the pitch, yeah people will notice it but it sounds alright if u need to.
Other wise going from 120 -> 140 you are going to have to build your set and slowly go up 1 -> 2 bpm's a track slowly getting to 140.
Or you could mix out of a breakdown
or on the 8th bar hope that your 140 track hits at the right time and you can just cut the track thats going 120 off, but its not reccommended |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
125-140 => starting a set @ +/- 125, ending @ +/- 140
by the way guys, can anybody help me with this question:
how do raise the BPM / speed up the tempo, when you're doing a set? it's not easily done when mixing one record into another record, since u have to match the beats ... right?
can anybody give me helpful advice? i want to know, cauz' i'd like to start off a set very chilly, with some house/progressive (120 BPM or a bit more), and later on, gain up towards higher BPM's (around 140) for tracks like Randy Katana - In Silence (TxiTxarro mix) or Joris Voorn - Lost Memories pt. 2 => thats sorta stuff/records.
cheers, n thnx in advance! |
I don't know what professionals do exactly, but I can tell you that I look for in betweens, that seems to be the best way. Like say your at 120, you may play another tune at 120, and then another may be 120.2 or 120.4 actually, and then when you want to increase you increase to 120.6 and then gradually to like 120.8 and then your pretty close enough to 121 BPM. So it's in increments. I learned that on MixMeister and I still use this on CDJ 1000s, but it's largely a guess thing with CDJ 1000s, the beatcounter isn't very accurate but it does give you a sense of where the track might be around (it may say 130, it may actually be closer to 129). So say something is really 120, increase the pitch to %0.50 or %0.70 and it should be around the in-between point so you can use that to match the on coming track that might be 121 as either it's original BPM or pitching it up some...and yeah it's hard to go from 120 to 140, it's in increments usually unless your a skilled DJ like Danny Howells and James Zabiela who have been known to go from a higher to lower or lower to higher BPM and still make it sound good. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
I don't know what professionals do exactly, but I can tell you that I look for in betweens, that seems to be the best way. Like say your at 120, you may play another tune at 120, and then another may be 120.2 or 120.4 actually, and then when you want to increase you increase to 120.6 and then gradually to like 120.8 and then your pretty close enough to 121 BPM. So it's in increments. I learned that on MixMeister and I still use this on CDJ 1000s, but it's largely a guess thing with CDJ 1000s, the beatcounter isn't very accurate but it does give you a sense of where the track might be around (it may say 130, it may actually be closer to 129). So say something is really 120, increase the pitch to %0.50 or %0.70 and it should be around the in-between point so you can use that to match the on coming track that might be 121 as either it's original BPM or pitching it up some... |
You dont want the track around or in between, for the most part you want the track to come in at the same bpm as the one going out.
You can always nudge it up a bit during the track. |
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| |Thrax| |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gabe de Wielen
125-134 for me :) |
I love my house around 127. trance, maybe 134-137.7 ;) |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
You dont want the track around or in between, for the most part you want the track to come in at the same bpm as the one going out.
You can always nudge it up a bit during the track. |
But wouldn't something say at 120 to 120.2 not be compatiable with each other? Cause technically 120.2 rounds down to 120, there's not a huge difference between them. At least that's how i've always thought of it but it's probably from using MixMeister. The BPMs on MixMeister has decimal points so going from something at 137.9 to 138 to me sounds fine. So you could increase the track your playing from 120 to 120.6 in the middle of the mix and then play the next track at 121? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
So you could increase the track your playing from 120 to 120.6 in the middle of track and then mix into the next track at 120.6 then bump it up to 121.5... |
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| GUBostonDubs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
But wouldn't something say at 120 to 120.2 not be compatiable with each other? Cause technically 120.2 rounds down to 120, there's not a huge difference between them. At least that's how i've always thought of it but it's probably from using MixMeister. So you could increase the track your playing from 120 to 120.6 in the middle of the mix and then play the next track at 121? |
The beats wouldnt line up on cdjs or vinyl. They might for a few seconds or so but it's not actually beatmatched if theyre not the same bpm precisely |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
The beats wouldnt line up on cdjs or vinyl. They might for a few seconds or so but it's not actually beatmatched if theyre not the same bpm precisely |
Okay so a track at 137.9 wouldn't work with a track at 138? |
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| GUBostonDubs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
Okay so a track at 137.9 wouldn't work with a track at 138? |
it would for a few seconds but it would soon drift. It's more accurate the closer you are especially if you were on cdjs... |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
Okay so a track at 137.9 wouldn't work with a track at 138? |
It will work fine, just change the pitch of one of the tracks to match the other. |
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