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| HardTranceProd |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13343672/
Haha, I bet he would be shocked to see what's on European TV, but he's never travelled in his life, so - ignorance is bliss :p :cool: :D |
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| Psy-T |
| ph43r the nipplage. :o |
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| HardTranceProd |
| Hey Psy-T, is television in Israel pretty much European? |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13343672/
Haha, I bet he would be shocked to see what's on European TV, but he's never travelled in his life, so - ignorance is bliss :p :cool: :D |
um, he's visited europe, and other countries many times.
I guess ignorance is bliss for you. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
um, he's visited europe, and other countries many times.
I guess ignorance is bliss for you. |
Bush may have visited Europe but he didn't watch any European TV.
As for me, I'm in Europe every year. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Bush may have visited Europe but he didn't watch any European TV.
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Source. |
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| josh4 |
The whole lets get conservative movement means nothing. Once our generation starts taking over seats of influence you can bet you won't hear things like preserving the sanctity of marriage. In that Gen I, Y whatever you want to call it, has a much looser view on what is conservative.
This stuff is a futile attempt by some old farts that want to believe theres still a chance to turn the tides. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | | Originally posted by josh4 This stuff is a futile attempt by some old farts that want to believe theres still a chance to turn the tides. |
you sure it doesn't have anything to do with millions of families that have children? |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
The whole lets get conservative movement means nothing. Once our generation starts taking over seats of influence you can bet you won't hear things like preserving the sanctity of marriage. In that Gen I, Y whatever you want to call it, has a much looser view on what is conservative.
This stuff is a futile attempt by some old farts that want to believe theres still a chance to turn the tides. |
Millennial Generation, by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss_and_Howe
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
you sure it doesn't have anything to do with millions of families that have children? |
That's what they'd like you to think, but truth be told those families have always been there. Its not like all of a sudden American familes are calling for a Family Values Revolution. Certain forces would love to stage one in their name but I don't think the families are overly interested in having one.
American society has been becoming increasingly liberal. Each passing generation is more liberal, more tolerant, and more accepting than the previous. I can even go so far as to say there has never been a generation that was more conservative than the previous. You merely need to look at the "indecency standards" for television in any time period to see this trend. You can also draw a correlation between Bush's approval rating and his conservative stance.
Following these things to be true you can deduce that this effort to bring back the standards of the past is only temporary while its advocates hold the power and that won't be for much longer. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
American society has been becoming increasingly liberal.
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THat's not true at all! In the 80s and 90s, PBS showed some nudity in their films and plays, so did ABC occasionally. This is unthinkable now. There's a sexual hysteria now that didn't exist before to such an extent. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
That's what they'd like you to think, but truth be told those families have always been there. Its not like all of a sudden American familes are calling for a Family Values Revolution. Certain forces would love to stage one in their name but I don't think the families are overly interested in having one.
American society has been becoming increasingly liberal. Each passing generation is more liberal, more tolerant, and more accepting than the previous. I can even go so far as to say there has never been a generation that was more conservative than the previous. You merely need to look at the "indecency standards" for television in any time period to see this trend. You can also draw a correlation between Bush's approval rating and his conservative stance.
Following these things to be true you can deduce that this effort to bring back the standards of the past is only temporary while its advocates hold the power and that won't be for much longer. |
so concerned families have nothing to do with this? that's what they would like us to think, but really it's just old men that want the status quo? delusional argument that i'm actually suprised your trying to make. what status quo? according to you there is none. every year it gets worse. your right!
answer me this. what exactly are "generations" getting increasingly "tolerant and accepting" of? thats a rhetorical question btw because we all know the answer. however your argument seems to assume all American families fall into a catagory that has no limits of tolerance and acceptance.
no one is trying to bring back anything. my guess is you haven't read the law. the law makes certain content, that you concede is becoming more and more risque', punishable by higher fines.
substantially higher because paying the previous fines were basically an afterthought of multibillion dollar broadcasters. |
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