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Italy - USA (June 17th 2006) [Group E] (pg. 25)
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| luisjb82 |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
they won't loose :p |
lol so you say :p
And Lunasea, what's wrong with being metro?? lol geez all this metro hating :whip:
And what's with the n00bs still arguing about the ref... he was right on all the red cards and that offside ruling in USA's 2nd goal, My God seriously, have you guys played football at all before, do you really know your football??
I'm beginning to understand those who aren't posting in this WC forum... |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by luisjb82
lol so you say :p
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Where's Venezuela:conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: |
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| LittleGoku |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Where's Venezuela:conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: |
playing world cup tune ups/warm ups for other teams |
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| Cloud |
| quote: | Originally posted by luisjb82
I'm beginning to understand those who aren't posting in this WC forum... |
+1 :( |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI
this coming from the girl who started almost all the fashion threads/convos in this world cup forum :p
p.s I hope Ben isnt taking yesterdays Italian performance too hard :stongue: |
wtvr.. dude, at least it was ing related to WC and not European vs. US style.. :rolleyes: that's just useless talk if you ask me, especially in a thread that says italy vs. usa in its title...
so did you wanna talk about being metro? :rolleyes: :p |
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| luisjb82 |
lol What's wrong about being metro?
I think I'm gonna start my own alliance, only metros allowed... even Crapcelona fans will be allowed if they're metro lol :p |
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| Kapedan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Member of X
I think many Euro's in here are plenty arrogant, especially about how bad our football team is. Or they continue to slag on our football because of some political agenda and not any real knowledge of our team. What I'm saying is that if we ever really had the passion in football as the rest of the countries, we'd be a powerhouse. I'm the bad guy because I'm proud of the overall athletic ability of my country. Ok. You hide behind the "Another stupid American" card. Wow, I haven't heard that one in this forum. That's a real intelligent response.
Funny enough, Italy could only tie with our measly team. |
Great post, me and Eddie enjoyed it :D |
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| LittleGoku |
| quote: | Originally posted by luisjb82
lol so you say :p
And Lunasea, what's wrong with being metro?? lol geez all this metro hating :whip:
And what's with the n00bs still arguing about the ref... he was right on all the red cards and that offside ruling in USA's 2nd goal, My God seriously, have you guys played football at all before, do you really know your football??
I'm beginning to understand those who aren't posting in this WC forum... |
Ok I wanna address the issue of the refs at the US vs Italy game without the
1) "OMG IM a professional football fan, let us the real fans decide if its a good call....All of you soccer newbs dont know anything" mentality.
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2) "US is got screwed, i hate the refs" mentality.
First and foremost, In my opinion both straight red cards were correct and the offside goal was a good call. The questionable yellowcards to pope might have been a little excessive. The main reason the officiating has been questioned is not so much the red cards passed out during the game but rather the tempo lost in the game because of the rigid officiating. The Italians, if you have watched football before, have attained the image of being divers. The Italians are masters at the dive which by the way is a sport that belongs in the olympics. Being fair the The yellow card on Totti was a joke too. But what was unfortunate was the contact which initiated wwe style flopping left and right. It was almost as if they hit a landmine when the italian squad was in contact with the us players.The stretchers were brought onto the field about 5+ times in this game and one particular instance showed one Italian that wasn't carted off the field on a stretcher yelling in pain as if he had both legs broken and was about to die of intense pain. Seconds later he would come back into the field after the trainer would fog his leg with ice spray, running like a healthy cheetah. Now with that said, i want to reinterate that i agree with the red cards, however if the game was going to be called so rigidly down the line then they should have been more rigid on flopping. Now if you believe all the calls were called according to the books then you would agree they weren't so strict on diving. FIFA has been trying to crack down on simulation and this game should of been the one that would of enforced this if it was being officiated in this manner. With that said, the game should have ended with 4-5 players on the field. Regardless the result, it was a memorable game even if the Italian Press called their team a "Italy of Madmen" and even if US soccer fan thinks Bruce Arena needs to be fired as soon as possible. Everyone needs to take it easy bashing each other over who knows more about soccer and what not. Its pretty immature, enjoy the games! I know I AM:stongue: |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Member of X
I think many Euro's in here are plenty arrogant, especially about how bad our football team is. Or they continue to slag on our football because of some political agenda and not any real knowledge of our team. What I'm saying is that if we ever really had the passion in football as the rest of the countries, we'd be a powerhouse. I'm the bad guy because I'm proud of the overall athletic ability of my country. Ok. You hide behind the "Another stupid American" card. Wow, I haven't heard that one in this forum. That's a real intelligent response.
Funny enough, Italy could only tie with our measly team. |
You're right. I have to admit I don't like the USA at all (although not directly related with politics, more directly related with 2002 :p and i hate Bruce Arena too, what an arrogant twat), and they do have a decent team. I see the tie with Italy more a consequence of the styles of play (Italy was forced to take attacking control of the game, that doesn't suit them at all) but that doesn't take away the merit from the american team.
Still it's pretty ing annoying how a good part of yours are bashing the refereeing - general consensus among everyone but the american fans is that all of them were good calls. I'm not discarding the americans opinion here for being "dumb" or "footy noobs", but because of being biased.
i also love how czech rep are "commies" :haha: |
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| BeatFreak |
| The reason we aren't a powerhouse in soccer is because we don't send our best athletes, we send our best soccer players. And after age 16 there aren't many. Our best athletes go on to play basketball, football, and baseball. |
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| jonze234 |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
You're right. I have to admit I don't like the USA at all (although not directly related with politics, more directly related with 2002 :p and i hate Bruce Arena too, what an arrogant twat), and they do have a decent team. I see the tie with Italy more a consequence of the styles of play (Italy was forced to take attacking control of the game, that doesn't suit them at all) but that doesn't take away the merit from the american team. |
i havent liked bruce arena's gameplan for either of the two games. in the game against the czechs he tried to be cute and have guys playing out of position and then came down harsh on those players after the game. for the italian game i thought we came out good and controlled much of the pace. but when it came to subbing in players late in the game he really dropped the ball. i thought mcbride should have been taken out and eddie johnson put in to match up with beasley's fresh legs. i also think he should have done something about pope and the rest of the defense because the ref was calling everything so tight it was only a matter of time before someone got another yellow whether it was pope or onyewu. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
i also love how czech rep are "commies" :haha: |
wtf we´re no commies, man! :mad: |
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