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Is Trance less popular than it used to be? (pg. 4)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Ferry stopped doing the MOS cd cause he didn't want to play what they wanted him to... |
Yet they continued for three years.
| quote: | | The Annual was originally house... |
It's never exclusively been one genre.
| quote: | | Are you arguing that trance is less popular today then it was in 1999? |
I know it is. Sales figures clearly show that, as does the decline of trance nights, trance compilations, trance's mainstream penetration... You weren't in Europe in 1999 or 2000 were you? If you were, you can't be now. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yet they continued for three years.
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And sucked
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It's never exclusively been one genre.
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When it started it was house
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I know it is. Sales figures clearly show that, as does the decline of trance nights, trance compilations, trance's mainstream penetration... You weren't in Europe in 1999 or 2000 were you? If you were, you can't be now. |
how old were you in 99?
& can you show thoes figues?
Just cause its not as popular in the UK, Trance is definately more popular throught the world. |
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| DJ NEMESIS |
| trance has been going down in flames.. it's not even a remote argument about whether or not it's less popular today than it was in say 99-00. I have never in 11 years of DJing seen trance in a worse state. Many things have contributed to this. Much of it is to do with technology's impact in various ways. I am of course though talking about trance out in the real world.. in clubs.. events. |
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| nikhil chinapa |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
trance has been going down in flames.. it's not even a remote argument about whether or not it's less popular today than it was in say 99-00. I have never in 11 years of DJing seen trance in a worse state. Many things have contributed to this. Much of it is to do with technology's impact in various ways. I am of course though talking about trance out in the real world.. in clubs.. events. |
Going down in flames?? I think not... but around the world, its certainly less popular than what it used to be around the millenium... In fact almost all genres of EDM have regressed and fragmented.
In India, the following for trance has always been small, but devoted. That following has grown the past 4 years, since PVD's been here thrice, and we're hoping that Armin will be able to make the Indian pilgrimage soon...
I'd even go so far as to say that Hip-hop today, is where trance was in '99 /'00
Thats just IMO. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
Thats actually a good point there Nikhil Chinapa.
In many ways I actually feel for real hip hop fans who like ourselves are prolly feeling so angry at the way their so called music is being whored out so badly.
Hip Hop will get uncool in a while, it's had a good few years at the top and it wont be too long before people want new sounds, then Hip Hops gonna have to go through the stage trance is at right now. Recovering massivly. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
And sucked |
So what? How is that relevant? They were still being made because they still sold after Ferry dropped them, and then they stopped. Why? Because the MOS wasn't making money out of them anymore. It was still the biggest trance records mixed on one compilation, but trance dropped in popularity and so the MOS dropped trance.
| quote: | | When it started it was house |
Probably because the biggest records of 1995 were house. In 1996, the second Annual had The Prodigy on it. Hardly house, but one of the biggest tracks of the year. The Annual represents what's most popular.
| quote: | | how old were you in 99? |
Ah, the old Sandstorm trump card. The fact I was about twelve years old and still noticed the cultural penetration of trance merely reinforces my point. Trance singles were topping charts (literally: selling more copies than anything else in the country). Trance compilations were advertised on primetime TV and topped compilation charts. Trance was on TV, in films, everywhere. If a twelve year old is well aware of it, it must logically prove how popular it was.
| quote: | | & can you show thoes figues? |
I can give you them when I get in and consult my big book of UK chart records. However, I do know that the last trance record to break the Top 20 was in 2004, and it only reached #19. And where are all the new trance compilations? Why did they stop making Gatecrasher or Euphoria? These only exist now as Best Of compilations crammed full of tracks from 1999?
| quote: | | Just cause its not as popular in the UK, Trance is definately more popular throught the world. |
But most trance is made in the UK and Europe. Trance has never had any real popularity in the US, so a marginal increase there means all overall. In Europe it's much less popular, and Europe is where trance was born, where it is made and where it is sold.
Basically, all you've got is the DJ Mag list, which has been proven by TA to be inaccurate . The meteoric rise of DJ Mikey Mike from no-name to superstar jock proves how easy it is to load the chart. The trance jocks are only top because they're the ******s who care about the poll. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
But most trance is made in the UK and Europe. Trance has never had any real popularity in the US, so a marginal increase there means all overall. In Europe it's much less popular, and Europe is where trance was born, where it is made and where it is sold.
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In Czech Rep., trance is much more popular right now than it was in 99/00. The same goes for the rest of the Central Europe imo (Slovakia, Poland).
So it really depends on where you live, though the "MTV global popularity" has a world-wide effect. |
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| daeus |
Talking about compilation CD's, they seem to be good at marking the current state of the trance scene at whenever time.
I used to get well dissapointed when the annuals's had a loads of non-trance in them, so stopped buying them . |
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| LaiaMartin |
here in spain is gettin popular now, but ppl in here do ... not really nice tunes tho, compared mainly with the UK & netherlands.
I think now it has got more popular, but it's quality peak reached in 99/00. From now then there are good tracks ye, but now there's appearing more and more cheesy stuff.
i wish there would be more tracks as moonman - galaxia, chicane - saltwater... just that :) |
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| jonny_L |
| Trance is on its way out in my opinion, i dont think it is as popular now as it used to be, more & more people these days r prefering the harder side of trance/hard dance. Especialy the younger people their attracted to the harder music scene these days. |
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| DJ NEMESIS |
| quote: | Originally posted by nikhil chinapa
Going down in flames?? I think not... but around the world, its certainly less popular than what it used to be around the millenium... In fact almost all genres of EDM have regressed and fragmented. |
House, progressive, & breaks have not regressed. They are doing better than ever. Trance's popularity isn't just some unexplainable cultural shift... the quality of trance productions these days is awful copmpared to pre-2002. Loads of boring e. Guys like Tiesto, Armin, Pulser etc used to make huge tracks.. but now I can't remember at all when was the last time any of them produced anything that I would consider in such high regard. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
Guys like Tiesto, Armin, Pulser etc used to make huge tracks.. but now I can't remember at all when was the last time any of them produced anything that I would consider in such high regard. |
Maybe you should explore the genre more. The world does not stands or fails with Tiesto, Armin & Pulser. |
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