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Aaaaggrrr!!! I Hate Cdj-100 !! ((( (pg. 2)
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Graxxx
d guate?¿?¿ jaja q onda man... alegre encontrar mara por aqui.... cheeer up!:eek: |
de la ciudad.. pero no vivo alli. |
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| J:\Digital |
Psy DJ's have been spinning with 100's for YEARS, and they seem to do the job quite well...
.1% is quite reasonable to beatmatch with.. just takes practise.. |
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| Graxxx |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
de la ciudad.. pero no vivo alli. |
onde tas viviendo....?¿?¿? |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Graxxx
onde tas viviendo....?�?�? |
atlanta. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
Try CDJ500s mate.
It aint that hard to mix on the 100s. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_palm
get the 800 or 1000, rest is crap. actualy i think the 800 isnt acurate enough either. would die to have an analog pitch on a cd playar with no resolution. wonder why that is such a hard thing to do? |
To be honest for almost all tracks you buy anyways you wont need an analoge pitch since tunes will almost always be at a set bpm. Digital downloads straight from the lables will be at exactly 138bpm the whole way through mixing to another track you often only have to pitch up or down like 1.0 or 1.5%. (I know its not exactly beat matched then, but it will hold in time for well over 1 and half mins, even then the slightest adjustment gets it in time again.)
The point 0.1 only becomes an issue with vinyl rips or tracks not made with a regular tempo, such as tracks made to fit a specific sample or something so they need to be at like 136.57BPM.
Personally spinning on my CDJ500's for about a year, the 0.1 has never obthered me but once or twice, and then I simply ride the pitch up or down 0.1% to snap it right back in time.
Not super hard and it keeps you on your toes. And a damn sight easier than mixing on my vestax pdx2000. |
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| richg101 |
im sorry but 0.02 resolution of my cdj200 is only just enough. tried 800's with the 0.05 recently and were great. but i had to correct every 10 seconds so the mix was hot. but with cd players you shouldnt have to be playing with the pitch once you got em synched. i wanna be concentrating on the mixer not keeping a non accurate cd player from loosing sync..
i remember when i was good on vinyl mixing i didnt have to touch the pitch or platter during a mix. cos they just stuck once i got the speeds right. the analogue pitch gives you infinate pitch increments. so you can really get the speeds perfect
players with 0.1% increments are not much fun if you want your mixes to be long progressive ones imo. |
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| hooj1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
To be honest for almost all tracks you buy anyways you wont need an analoge pitch since tunes will almost always be at a set bpm. Digital downloads straight from the lables will be at exactly 138bpm the whole way through mixing to another track you often only have to pitch up or down like 1.0 or 1.5%. |
not true. what 138 bpm is to lets say Cubase may be 138.01 to Sonar. hence the need for fine pitch adjustments. All software/hardware has a slight amount a of difference in time and drift. were're talking milliseconds. if you want long mixes ie. over two minutes you have a better chance with turntables simply because of the analog pitch.
and this is comming from someone who only plays CDs now |
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| blacknoizybox |
hahh :)
actually these cdj-100s are not mine. they are my friend's, i borrowed em for a few days while he's gone from town :) i would never ever buy cdj-100 myself. plus i have to say i easily mix on cdj-1000/800 and the jogwheel lag is to obvious, so i don't think it's skills really. its just that playing on the modern cdj-800/1000 differs very much from playing on the stoneage cdj-100.
btw im not buying cdj's anyway. im expecting a pair of Stanton T-120Cs + SSL + trackmaster II sk this/next week so f.u.c.k. 0.1 pitch and etc. :tongue2 |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by richg101
im sorry but 0.02 resolution of my cdj200 is only just enough. tried 800's with the 0.05 recently and were great. but i had to correct every 10 seconds so the mix was hot. but with cd players you shouldnt have to be playing with the pitch once you got em synched. i wanna be concentrating on the mixer not keeping a non accurate cd player from loosing sync..
i remember when i was good on vinyl mixing i didnt have to touch the pitch or platter during a mix. cos they just stuck once i got the speeds right. the analogue pitch gives you infinate pitch increments. so you can really get the speeds perfect
players with 0.1% increments are not much fun if you want your mixes to be long progressive ones imo. |
Couldn't disagree more. They are fun and they hold mixes tight. God knows why you are having trouble with them. You can hold mixes for 2 mins with these most of the time, as mentioned there are points where you could do with slightly more pitch resolution. But really it shouldn't be needed for every single tune, and correcting tracks in the mix is something djs have done for ever since even the blessed 1210's wont hold mixes in exactly for very long.
For the guy about cubase being 138.01
In all reality who the hell produces at such a weird bpm? Unless its to fit some weird sample or something as I mentioned earlier. But this is for the most part in the very, very small minority of cases.
Analogue pitch is there on TT's to help correct for errors in the pressing, or the actual motor not being totally accurate anyways, 0.0% might be actually 0.2%.
I really do think this whole 0.1% pitch is making a mountain out of a mole hill. |
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| Tak Dub Bam |
| Not having to correct in a two-minute beatmatch should be a crime. |
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| hooj1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 For the guy about cubase being 138.01
In all reality who the hell produces at such a weird bpm? Unless its to fit some weird sample or something as I mentioned earlier. But this is for the most part in the very, very small minority of cases. |
i'm not saying people produce tracks @ 138.01. what i'm saying is each program has slight differences when it comes to bpm. the differences might be small but do make a difference. |
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