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Neo-nazis and skinhead extremists: terrific military recruits?
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| MisterOpus1 |
Boy, nothing like meeting that yearly quota for U.S. military recruits.....
no matter how far down we need to scrape the bottom:
| quote: | July 7, 2006
Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts
By JOHN KIFNER
A decade after the Pentagon declared a zero-tolerance policy for racist hate groups, recruiting shortfalls caused by the war in Iraq have allowed "large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines.
"We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," the group quoted a Defense Department investigator as saying in a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. "That's a problem."
A Defense Department spokeswoman said officials there could not comment on the report because they had not yet seen it.
The center called on Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to appoint a task force to study the problem, declare a new zero tolerance policy and strictly enforce it.
The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, William Pierce, wrote "The Turner Diaries," the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy J. McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war.
The groups are being abetted, the report said, by pressure on recruiters, particularly for the Army, to meet quotas that are more difficult to reach because of the growing unpopularity of the war in Iraq.
The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, "Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members."
Mr. Barfield said Army recruiters struggled last year to meet goals. "They don't want to make a big deal again about neo-Nazis in the military," he said, "because then parents who are already worried about their kids signing up and dying in Iraq are going to be even more reluctant about their kids enlisting if they feel they'll be exposed to gangs and white supremacists."
The 1996 crackdown on extremists came after revelations that Mr. McVeigh had espoused far-right ideas when he was in the Army and recruited two fellow soldiers to aid his bomb plot. Those revelations were followed by a furor that developed when three white paratroopers were convicted of the random slaying of a black couple in order to win tattoos and 19 others were discharged for participating in neo-Nazi activities.
The defense secretary at the time, William Perry, said the rules were meant to leave no room for racist and extremist activities within the military. But the report said Mr. Barfield, who is based at Fort Lewis, Wash., had said that he had provided evidence on 320 extremists there in the past year, but that only two had been discharged. He also said there was an online network of neo-Nazis.
"They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military," he said. "Several of these individuals have since been deployed to combat missions in Iraq."
The report cited accounts by neo-Nazis of their infiltration of the military, including a discussion on the white supremacist Web site Stormfront. "There are others among you in the forces," one participant wrote. "You are never alone."
An article in the National Alliance magazine Resistance urged skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units.
The Southern Poverty Law Center identified the author as Steven Barry, who it said was a former Special Forces officer who was the alliance's "military unit coordinator."
"Light infantry is your branch of choice because the coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's war," he wrote. "It will be house-to-house, neighborhood-by-neighborhood until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and 'cleansed.' "
He concluded: "As a professional soldier, my goal is to fill the ranks of the United States Army with skinheads. As street brawlers, you will be useless in the coming race war. As trained infantrymen, you will join the ranks of the Aryan warrior brotherhood."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/w...=rssnyt&emc=rss |
Are we really that ing desperate? |
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| metalgearsolid |
| Well, at least they can now die in Iraq and other places of combat. And yes we are that desperate. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
Does this really come as a surprise to anyone? I just assumed there was, and always will be a segment of our military that's there not for patriotic reasons, but for their own agenda.
By enrolling in the military, they're given a license to kill members of the races that they view as inferior, plus they can get training for their "race war." What more could they ask for? |
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| CranberryJuice |
it's the same everywhere ....
an example my best friend is dating a riot french policeman and at the party she gave the other day were present friends of her bf all riot police men they were telling us over there were some groups ...like the alcoholic one or the racist one and that some of these guys had nazi cross in their rooms and
sad to say but military and riot police men are at least here the place of choice for people who dont have any diploma or don't know what to do with their lives ....so yeah it doesnt surprise me it's full of outcasts
but don't get me wrong i don't mean everyone are like that some good people are as well in! |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Boy, nothing like meeting that yearly quota for U.S. military recruits.....
no matter how far down we need to scrape the bottom:
Are we really that ing desperate? |
Its the same reason that gays can now be found in the military with frequency never seen before, and be out to their fellow soldiers and commanding officers. The military is scooping up anyone and everyone that wants to join. I have several friends that were considering it not too long ago, spoke to a recruiter, and were in Iraq in no time. Yes, they're that desperate. |
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| Archon007 |
| This is an interesting story. Yet the thing is if you listen to what the leaders of these extremists groups saywell many of them are OPPOSEDto military action in Iraq. For example, David Duke is vehemently opposed to the war. Many of these groups find the war to be "for the Jews" and "for Israel" |
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| Fir3start3r |
Wow.
Slow day at the rags I see... |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Wow.
Slow day at the rags I see... |
:rolleyes: |
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| Q5echo |
yall remember about 10 or 11 years ago when "Bloods" and "Crypts" were joining the military for the same training so they could take it to their streets?
Black Panthers have been doing this for years, yet Opus wants you to believe something completely different now?
whatever. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Its the same reason that gays can now be found in the military with frequency never seen before, and be out to their fellow soldiers and commanding officers. The military is scooping up anyone and everyone that wants to join. I have several friends that were considering it not too long ago, spoke to a recruiter, and were in Iraq in no time. Yes, they're that desperate. |
are you telling me that your openly gay friends went to the recruiter and enlisted openly gay? callin bull on that one. |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
are you telling me that your openly gay friends went to the recruiter and enlisted openly gay? callin bull on that one. |
no the gays in the military and my friends enlisting were seperate unrelated topics. the part about them enlisting was meant to highlight the fact that the amount of training a soldier now receives to make him considered "combat ready" is so short its surprising how fast they are shipped off.
if you would like i can put it in equation form.
skinheads + gays + short training period + recuiters at schools = desperate military
to answer Opus' original question |
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| Sunsnail |
| I didnt understand what you were saying either actually. |
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