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| mysticalninja |
| You listen to way too many vanguard presets if you can spot one out of a tune. |
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| ralpheeee |
I realy cant believe how many people take the time out to NOT help this guy.
I mean if you dont want to help him out, thats fine, but why bother writing like " make your own presets" , " be original".
I think the reality is that you dont know enough to help a noob out, but instead of saying nothing, you wanna make yourselves feel superior by spouting crap.
Wanna bassline, use first contact preset in Z3ta, disable the arpegio, voila, bassline, just add some distortion, eq out some higher frequencies and play around with it.
It's a start anyway
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| whatsupd0g |
bassline synths should be simple
a lot of good basslines are constructed just using 1 lowpass filtered saw oscillator i.e. discover ones (ocallaghan, tyas, askew, ect).. or the same saw oscillator with filter decay envolope a la Ron van den Beuken.
or 1 square oscilattor with a decayed pitch envolope i.e. Cascada, Cosmic Gate for your hard/euro trance.
okay enough with that. lol.
anyway
that's probably why a lot of people have been dishing the guy to make his own presets. Basslines should be the least of your problems.
Infact messing with basslines taught me the basics of subtractive synthesis.
Synth designers don't usually make bassline presets because anybody fidgeting with a synth can make a decent synth bassline. It's easy. Try it :)
Most of the synthesizer developers program presets/patches that are difficult for the noobie producer (and difficult for most producers at that) to build from scratch. |
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| DJSentinel |
I was only pointing out that he should not be using presets. He might be beginning but he should be reading up on synthesis instead of fiddling with presets.
Sawtooth Bass
Open you synth of choice, activate 1 of the avaliable oscillators and select a sawtooth waveform. If not avaliable, choose a pulse or square waveform. Now route that oscillator into one of the synth's filters. Turn the cutoff down to about 20%, and modulate the frequency cuttoff using a envelope, where the envelope amount is about 40%. Change the envelope that is modulating the freq. cut. to... "Attack = 0%," "Decay = 20-30%," "Sustain = 0%," "Release = 100%." Now transpose the oscillator you used earlier one octave, or 12 semitones if you prefer. Turn up the resonace of the filter you used earlier up a tad to 10%, make sure your filter is a -12dB Low-Pass mode, and then run the output out of your synth.
Wala! Your sawtooth bass that has been used in too many tracks to name. Add filtered-delay and eq to taste.
Sound like a preset? It sure does.
Nuff said, go learn Subtractive Synthesis. It's on www.wikipedia.org :P |
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| Dj Ruck |
| Thanks Sentinel ;) |
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| ralpheeee |
By the way, I'm not saying you should not learn to program your own patches, you should.
I found that starting with presets and modifying them is a good way to learn as well as reverse enginering those presets, by which i mean analysing all the different settings and seeing what they do; try turning fx on and off to listen too the difference, turn oscilators higher and lower, that sort of stuff.
Good websites for basic knowledge are computer music and sound on sound.
Good luck and prepare for a long journey;) |
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| optik |
one thing we all forget is that we ain't making trance for other producers - we are making it for people at parties to dance to.
most of the public wouldn't know a vanguard patch from a strawberry patch.
simple sawtooths do it for me.
I like minimonsta for a bassline |
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| substorm |
I always begin with a preset that has a sound thats close to what i want to have, then i just tweak it until i have the sound i want.
I didnt know anything about programing synths when i started producing music, and i still donīt, but im learning after every sound i tweak.
Ive had some plans on going to a music production course, but i dont have the time and money for it. I produce as an hobby and i like playing around with sounds. I take much inspiration from other producers and sertain sounds and i try to recreate them, and when ive done that i tweak it to another.
I dont see anything wrong in using presets. As long as the finl product is a relly good track, i dont think the listener care about, or knows if its from a preset or not, just us producer nerds
Regarding a bassline, you should get Audiorealism Bassline VST, and play around with it, its a simple 303 emulatior. Its easy to learn the basics in it and you can create a massive bassline with it when u learn how to use it. In my opinion, a bassline doesnt need to be complicated, but once you get a hang of it, try layering sounds like bass and lead. By layering to tweaked presets you can get a different sound without knowing synth programing.
Cheers |
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| Dj Ruck |
| thanks for info ;) |
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| Channel Surfer |
| quote: | [i][b]
Wala! Your sawtooth bass that has been used in too many tracks to name. Add filtered-delay and eq to taste.
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Filtered delay? please eleborate? thanks. |
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| Chronosis |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
but by using presets your just going to sound like every other amatuer producer. |
I disagree. Many professionals use the same presets/sounds they have used for years. Those are in fact a big part what makes their "sound". Having been in the game for a long time, setups are not the same as every beginners today. Different synths (especially rare ones) can make your sound quite original, even if it's a preset you use from that piece of equipment. There's nothing wrong using presets, it's all about how you want to make music. |
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