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Help with Trance Mastering
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| aliendj |
I am done with my album with 10 tracks, now im in the Mastering part. I have tried many softwares like Waves & O-Zone, but still never satisfied with the results. Im producing on Reason 3. I tried the Mastering Suite featured in Reason, but still not satisfied when I compare to other progessional tracks, I feel that my track is a bit "far" or "behind". I uploaded a demo, maybe you can help me when you listen.
Demo mastered with Reason
http://www.crouge.com/track_mastered.mp3
I believe my problem is with the EQUALIZER. maybe the track needs more middle gain? I hope someone can help me with this to finish my last steps & send my CD to the record label.
thank you for support!!!
C-Rouge |
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| LENG |
| why not leave the mastering to the pros? if you're really serious in getting it to the market, you should let the real pro's do the finishing touch then. |
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| aliendj |
| well you're right. I agree that a sound engineer must do that part. however I would still love to learn at least a basic mastering OR make it sounds good. |
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| staticblue |
| I think you should forget mastering and work on the mixing in the track instead. I suggest that you rework the EQ's of your sounds to seperate them from each other more. |
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| Vizay |
fix it in the mixdown
fix it in the mixdown
fix it in the mixdown
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fix it in the mixdown
ohh btw, did I forget to mention that you should fix it in the mixdown? :p
okay but seriously talking. If you can't get the mastering right it's one out of two problems. either you're not good enough at mastering (not meant in an unfriendly way, we just can't be good at everything :)) or the mixdown isn't good enough. Try to figure out wich one it is first and then the problem will be easy to solve. |
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| aliendj |
I have good monitors, a pair of Alesis. flat studio monitors.
I agree that my problem is with my MIXDOWN. I reseted all my mixer's levels to zero. im right now mixing it again. I hope this will work out now :)
thanks again! |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| quote: | Originally posted by aliendj
I feel that my track is a bit "far" or "behind". I uploaded a demo, maybe you can help me when you listen.
Demo mastered with Reason
http://www.crouge.com/track_mastered.mp3 |
For starters, the level isn't very loud, which wouldn't make it all that competitive against other mastered tracks. You can quite safely lower the limiter threshold another 2 or 3 dB to give you a more 'forward' level that way, but ultimately you may want to go back to the mix as others have said too.
| quote: | | I believe my problem is with the EQUALIZER. maybe the track needs more middle gain? |
I do agree you're lacking mids. What I would particularly look at is the extreme treble. It's hard to tell given a 128 kbps MP3, but the treble above ~14 kHz is sounding to be too loud. Especially on the lead synth, you may want to lowpass it off. Give some instruments (e.g. the piano) more boost around 200 Hz - 2 kHz, and balance your levels so the midrange instruments get more level, but less EQ around 7 kHz and above 14 kHz.
What you have here is a very fragile mix on top of a thin, but exposed bass-end. Boost the midrange on any instruments (even the kick could do with more lower mids, and the bass instrument could sound thicker here), and turn their levels up to fill up more of the mixing space. Compression will also get you far in getting a fuller sound. |
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| JustinMead |
| quote: | Originally posted by LENG
why not leave the mastering to the pros? if you're really serious in getting it to the market, you should let the real pro's do the finishing touch then. |
Wrong answer :p
The only way to learn is to do it yourself. Thats just like saying dont play soccer or basketball because where not as good as the pros ;) |
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| staticblue |
| quote: | Originally posted by JustinMead
Wrong answer :p
The only way to learn is to do it yourself. Thats just like saying dont play soccer or basketball because where not as good as the pros ;) |
True. But trying to master a badly mixed track is like playing soccer with a rugby ball: You just can't seem to shoot it in the right direction. |
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| Magnus |
| Check out Atlantis-AR on TA. I'm not sure if he is still mastering but you could PM him. He mastered a few of my tracks and he will work with you to get the mixdown to the point where he can take over and work his magic. His prices are awesome too. |
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| Kris Xperiment |
| quote: | Originally posted by staticblue
True. But trying to master a badly mixed track is like playing soccer with a rugby ball: You just can't seem to shoot it in the right direction. |
:haha: :haha: :haha: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
Static Bloo...You're officially cut off!:stongue:
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I still love you though ;) |
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| JustinMead |
| quote: | Originally posted by staticblue
True. But trying to master a badly mixed track is like playing soccer with a rugby ball: You just can't seem to shoot it in the right direction. |
Also true, but with a little practice, it can be acheived, like in both cases :D |
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