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HELP! why my computer freezes MORE, after i buy 512 mb Ram? (pg. 2)
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Mail Man
If you find that it is still freezing a lot make sure the motherboard can handle the 512mb of RAM, i would find that out because when P2 came out 512mb or RAM was not very common so most motherboards did not need to support that amount.
dj_alfi
quote:
Originally posted by patticus
there's a lot of space on c (about a 1gig+) and 300 or so MB remaining on


i think u should buy your self a new hd... 1,3 gig total is not enough when your into music ,recording sets and stuff... if yur gonna rec a set in 196 kbps it can easily get above the size of your hd´s free space....
patticus
nono, there's that much remaining.. like 2 or 3 gigs on C...
my HD is 27 gigs total:)
DJ Chrono
if you run win98 the additional RAM wont do much .. its better with 2000 or XP. also, try getting tweaking programs.. I have winxp and have a prog called "customizer XP" and it greatly enhanced my speed and preformance. I even cut my computer start up time to 25 seconds. Try keeping your cpu cool aswell, the best is if you can get an aluminum case, a good heatsink, and some programs like cpu idle, that can keep it at a stable temperature.
ShadySlim
patticus, not only do Windows 95/98/Me NOT properly utilise 512MB or more of RAM, but most Pentium II processors (with 512K of off-chip, half-speed L2 cache) cannot cache more than 512MB of physical RAM. The newest processors with on-chip, "full-processor-speed" cache can cache up to 4GB of physical RAM. ;)
patticus
sorry
to get things straight guiys

im running windows 2000 on a celeron (733 mHZ)
ShadySlim
Then, patticus, it could be your motherboard. Most motherboards designed for 733MHz Celerons max out at 512MB of RAM maximum. Also, most 733MHz Celeron systems use Intel's crappy 810/810E chipset, which relies on integrated graphics "accelerators" that steal as much as 11MB of system RAM.
Ugg
Patticus,

1) Check your motherboard specs, including the chipset on the board. Sometimes the chipset used on the motherboard is limited to the kind and size of the memory it addresses.

In have an ABit VP6 dual motherboard in my system which has the VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset. When I looked at the MB guide, it said I could use high-density DIMM's for a total of 3 x 512 MB of RAM. When I looked at VIA's guide, it said that only 2 x 512 MB DIMM's should be used because of addressing problems w/ the 3rd slot. So I saved myself the headache and only populated a (mere) 2 x 512 = 1 GB of RAM :D

2) Download a little program called "memtest". Dump it to a floppy, boot from it, and it will test your RAM. If you get no errors, your RAM is good.

3) Check the RAM settings in your BIOS (if your BIOS has them) to be sure they are set to the correct speed of your RAM. RAM comes in different speeds, so if you're mixing and matching (which you really shouldn't do, BTW), always set it to the speed of your SLOWEST RAM.

4) Since you're running Win 2000, you may need to adjust your Virtual Memory. It is recommended that you have a minimum of your RAM size + 12 MB of virtual memory. So for 512 MB, you need at the VERY least a 512 MB swap file.

5) Check to see if you have any IRQ conflicts. If your sound card is sharing an IRQ with something else, that could be causing the problem. Try moving the sound card to another slot so it gets it's own IRQ.

Good luck & I hope this helps!
Ugg
quote:
Originally posted by ShadySlim
Also, most 733MHz Celeron systems use Intel's crappy 810/810E chipset, which relies on integrated graphics "accelerators" that steal as much as 11MB of system RAM.


Forgot about the ol' 810 chipset...
Patticus, are you running onboard audio and video? If so, 810 MB's are known for stuttering audio and minor system freezes. You might do well to upgrade to a PCI sound card if you don't have one.
spectra
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ShadySlim: patticus, not only do Windows 95/98/Me NOT properly utilise 512MB or more of RAM.


I don't think that is quite true, I am running a SOYO mothoerboard (Via chipset) with a Celeron 833 and 1024MB of the 100Mhz variety. Does Windows 98 SE see it? Of course. There isn't an operating system that doesn't say X amount of MB of RAM, however neither Win95/98 have any multi processor support, + Win9X code is wank. But i only benched my PC for a week with that amount of RAM, I now have 256MB but I dont have any resource probs.

But contradicting what I just said, practically every problem can be solved with replacing ur OS with Win98 SE (Unless of course u want Linux/Unix). Does the task Manager say that ur CPU usage or Memory usage is high?

veezee
take a can of compressed air, clean inside your tower out.. and buy a stronger more powerfull fan. Better cooling will take away ALOT of problems (including alot of those annoying "blue screen of deaths").

If your HD is fairly organized/clean, and you have more ram that your MB does support, i say give my suggestion a try. A little birdy told this to me a while back, and i have been happy since i have done it :)


Jay
spectra
Jay has a real good point, I got a lot less errors when I installed a case fan and took off one of the sides.
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