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Someone please define "techno" for me. (pg. 5)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Spirit, you're being far too pretentious about epic trance and Harriz is a mysteriously unbanned would-be troll come techno snob. |
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| harriz |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Spirit, you're being far too pretentious about epic trance and Harriz is a mysteriously unbanned would-be troll come techno snob. |
I don't plan on getting banned again so I wont answer MrMysterys posts and I will keep this argument, to the point and within reasonable length.
In other words you can insult me all you want I am not going to answer back.
I will however point some 'wrongs' out...
When Tie$to$ fluff is 'idillic' and '$ophi$ticated' while Wink gets 2 stars and an off the mark analogy involving video games and implying file sharing you out of all people should not talk about pretense.
The fact that you actually reviewed a great cd (guess which...) cannot make up for the fact that a Tie$to-brand product gets a better review from you than Josh Winks 20/20 artist album.
Because of that YOU are now as pretentious as some wanna-be reviewer would be if he bashed a real band like Radiohead and favored some garbage like the Backstreet Boys.
Way to go System. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Spirit, you're being far too pretentious about epic trance and Harriz is a mysteriously unbanned would-be troll come techno snob. |
But i'm not talking about epic trance, i'm talking about melodic trance or melodic and beautiful music period. I'm just using a few, more melodic trance tunes as references, but they are hardly the super-saw epic trance that many of us have gotten tired. And i'm not really being pretensious, merely stating that these melodic trance has a more emotional, spiritual feel to it than a lot of the techno out there.
I'm not going on and on about the spiritual qualities of it in a pretensious way, I'm merely explaining my point. I use "spiritual" as a way to describe music that is transcendent...euphoric or heavenly, which a lot of the music I've talked about and like is, whether it's trance, ambient, new age or classical or whatever it is. It's incomprehensible to me that someone would not consider the tunes I mentioned, and mention often, as not being so...whether they like them or not. And I don't know Harriz, first time i've come in contact with him on here. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by harriz
Yes Boards of Canada and Ulrich Schnauss make great music.
I dont think you can get away with the trance-classical comparison because trance is far to elementary to be compared to classical in my opinion. |
Yes they do, but they have a slightly different sound. Ulrich's music is definitely more compositional and melodic, where Boards Of Canada is more experimental and subtle.
I'm not making the comparision as far as complexity of the music, but the way in which the music is experienced or felt from the listener. I would say though that trance has had over the years a more compositional structure to it, where as techno has been more free-form. Sure it's not as complex structurally as classical, but both definitely have this wonderful beauty about them conveyed through melodies or angelic voices. That's not to say techno can't be this way, but it hasn't done this to the same degree as trance.
I'm merely stating a point though, as I like both styles, but trance is where my passion has been. See i'm not here bashing techno, i'm just trying to make a personal observation, that doesn't mean I'm right and your wrong.
Different things in music appeals to different people. Some people like the idea of technology pushing the boundaries of music. I like this idea just as anyone else, but where some people might like it in an experimental way, others might want to use it as a way to enhance the feel of the music...creating lush soundscapes or feelings of euphoria. And music can be both...which is exactly what Ulrich Schnauss has been doing, and doing very well. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
Holy ! A maze of ironies. |
I haven't laughed that hard at so few words in quite a long time. |
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| Aquadyne |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RJT
People (DJ's, TA's, EDM whores in general) seem to describe "techno" music in drastically different terms.
I don't get it. What is "techno?" |
lol @ newblet |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by harriz
I don't plan on getting banned again so I wont answer MrMysterys posts and I will keep this argument, to the point and within reasonable length.
In other words you can insult me all you want I am not going to answer back.
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Don't blame me for your banning, you made it happen all by yourself with the exact attitude you're using in this very thread right now. It's only a matter of time before you go overboard again. It was a terrible decision to let you back in again, people don't just change in a week. |
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| rustyryan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquadyne
lol @ newblet |
RTFT |
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquadyne
lol @ newblet |
:stongue:
Hey man, when you've got 80 different "Techno" DJ's all telling you that what they play is techno, and that what the other 79 DJ's are playing is everything from Hardstyle to Minimal, it can get damn confusing! :p |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by harriz
I don't plan on getting banned again so I wont answer MrMysterys posts and I will keep this argument, to the point and within reasonable length.
In other words you can insult me all you want I am not going to answer back.
I will however point some 'wrongs' out...
When Tie$to$ fluff is 'idillic' and '$ophi$ticated' while Wink gets 2 stars and an off the mark analogy involving video games and implying file sharing you out of all people should not talk about pretense.
The fact that you actually reviewed a great cd (guess which...) cannot make up for the fact that a Tie$to-brand product gets a better review from you than Josh Winks 20/20 artist album.
Because of that YOU are now as pretentious as some wanna-be reviewer would be if he bashed a real band like Radiohead and favored some garbage like the Backstreet Boys.
Way to go System. |
20/20 is ing dull acid house/techno that's been heard a million times before. You're only favouring it because of your snobbish pretences that techno = credibility. You slate trance for being all the same then try and hype the most ing generic techno record I've heard in years?
Plus you're so ing stupid you can't even quote in context. I was talking about the cover photography in the quotes you mentioned- even specifically saying "even aside from the music". Way to go, you're a ing idiot.
Spirit: epic, melodic, it's all pretty simplistic stuff. Your fluffy ideas of spirituality sound horrifically trance-cracker in tone. Trance is not a genre by default but neither is it somehow spiritually more fulfilling than techno, and hyping up some melodic records just cripples your argument. The fact is trance and techno are side by side: both have good, bad and ugly in equal measures. To say otherwise is to talk biased e. Ignore Harriz. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
20/20 is ing dull acid house/techno that's been heard a million times before. You're only favouring it because of your snobbish pretences that techno = credibility. You slate trance for being all the same then try and hype the most ing generic techno record I've heard in years?
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do you mind naming some similarly generic techno records then? |
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