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Trance Scene in T.O. circa 1999 (pg. 2)
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
the rave protocal made it virtually impossible to hold events outside of licenced nightclubs. That coupled with the refusal to rent space led to the end of the parties that used to attract literally 10s of thousands of people per event.
I used to be excited about and happy to be in Toronto. That all changed about 5 years ago.
You should also look up pupatello's rave bill that was passed. |
well i guess this is our 'legal' definition of what a rave is:
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Explanatory Note
The purpose of this Bill is to regulate parties known as raves. The Bill defines a rave as a dance event occurring between 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m., for which admission is charged. The Bill prohibits anyone from holding a rave unless the local municipality has issued a permit. No one may promote or organize a rave or sell tickets to a rave unless a permit has been issued. As well, the Bill prohibits anyone from allowing the use of property for the holding of raves unless a permit has been issued for the rave.
Municipalities may issue or renew permits subject to conditions. They may also suspend or revoke permits. Permits may be granted for one or many raves. If a permit is issued for raves on an ongoing basis, it expires one year from the date it is issued, unless a shorter period appears on the permit. Circumstances are also prescribed where permits are not to be issued.
The Bill requires that permit holders ensure that a person attending a rave leaves if the person is on the premises for an unlawful purpose. The permit holder and the agents and employees of the permit holder may request that such persons leave immediately, and if the request is not complied with, they may forcibly remove the person.
The Bill gives police officers the authority to enter any place where they reasonably believe a rave is being held in violation of the Act or a by–law made under it. Police officers may also require all persons to vacate the premises, if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the Act or a by–law is being violated, or that a disturbance or breach of the peace sufficient to constitute a threat to public safety is being caused.
Municipalities may restrict the geographic areas in the municipality where raves may be held, prescribe standards for the holding of raves, require applicants to provide local residents with notice of an application, and fix fees for applications.
The Bill provides for two types of offences. First, persons who promote or hold a rave without a permit, allow their property to be used for the purposes of holding a rave without a permit, knowingly provide false information in an application, or fail to meet specific obligations imposed by the Act, by a by–law or by a permit. For such offences, corporations can be fined up to $50,000, individuals face up to a $10,000 fine or up to six months imprisonment or to both. Second, persons who attend a rave and fail to abide by a direction to vacate the premises. For this offence, individuals can be fined up to $5,000.
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the protocol in it's entirety can be found here:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/bills/73371.htm
so basically we can still have parties in large public venues... as long as they end by 2 AM. oh joy!
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
so basically we can still have parties in large public venues... as long as they end by 2 AM. oh joy!
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and have 1 paid duty cop per 50 people. Now you see why im so political these days. Because politics took our fun away while no one was looking.
Perhaps this sheds light on my negative attitude toward the restrictive laws that keep getting passed. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
and have 1 paid duty cop per 50 people. Now you see why im so political these days. Because politics took our fun away while no one was looking.
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actually in one of the links i posted it says 1 for every 500 .. unless this has changed?
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| Tunnel Rat |
| Just turn "raves" into family events and you can have them anywhere, anytime. Like Tiesto at Disney Land in Paris. Simple.:rolleyes: |
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| Adamo |
| i've always wanted to see a party thrown at Atlantis in Ontario Place...tell me thats not a ing AWESOME venue. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
actually in one of the links i posted it says 1 for every 500 .. unless this has changed?
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That PDF u liked to says 1 per every 100. |
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| Platipus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Adamo
i've always wanted to see a party thrown at Atlantis in Ontario Place...tell me thats not a ing AWESOME venue. |
Back in the Day Destiny held there Ascension Parties there, so much fun. Especially when they had the fireworks going.. Ascension Parties 6-14 were there! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
That PDF u liked to says 1 per every 100. |
50 or a hundred... either way its overkill and cost prohibitive. Which was exactly the point. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
50 or a hundred... either way its overkill and cost prohibitive. Which was exactly the point. |
I think i agree, moreso that the reasons of needed security for our protection i imagine! |
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| Truepioneer |
Ha! I was just thinking back to those days in the 90s the other day.
There was atleast two big events in the city to choose from every weekend!
In the summers you could find something going on everyday of the week!
Locations of raves would never be announced until the day of the event and often you could look forward to new venues.
Yep, it was definitely different back then. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
That PDF u liked to says 1 per every 100. |
this is what i read..
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9. Paid Duty Officers
As a guideline, for raves in excess of 500 patrons, there will be a minimum of two Paid Duty Officers (PDO’s), and a ration of one per 500 patrons. Based on a review of the location and availability of private security, the commander of the appropriate police division may amend this guideline.
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
this is what i read..
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iu wonder wtf i read then.
im too lazy (too drunk) to go back and tlook right nwo. |
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