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Your feelings on trance music present day? (pg. 4)
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| deceptikon |
I listen to other stuff for nostalgic reasons. I listen to uplifting trance because I ing love it.
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| MiikkaLeinonen |
^ +1
I think there are lots of excellent melodic/uplifting trance still coming out from many labels. Trance is not changing into another genre, producers and dj's are. Of course thats shame but theres nothing we can do about it. I personally hate progehouse and other crap and thats why i'm not listening to it - it's as simple as that :D
All the djs in proge bandwagon will come back sooner or later or they'll find another "cool" genre to listen/play..
Thats their problem, i'll stick in melodic trance :) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by RicheyJames
Yes, for nostalgic reasons, not because of the music itself!!
Tracks you grew up with and/or listened to in your early discovery of trance will ALWAYS have a spark for you, and you believe nothing else will ever be as good. |
Not entirely true. I have recently gone "back in time" to check out stuff from 1999-2002 that I hadn't heard before. Back then I was more into breakbeat and ambient so I missed a lot of the good stuff back then (apart from the obvious tracks) and I enjoy that stuff much more than I do the current.
Sure, the production quality is just downright awful at times but the ideas were original and fresh. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by MiikkaLeinonen
All the djs in proge bandwagon will come back sooner or later or they'll find another "cool" genre to listen/play..
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Yeah, sure they will :stongue: |
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| Aesthetic |
Yep I couldnt agree with you more.. Said tracks still have power because of the thought that was put into the chord progression.. IMO the genre hasnt gotten "stale" or "generic" as people like to say, its simply the melodies havent been as awe inspiring.. that's what's lacking in today's trance.. everybody's worried about production rather than about the most important thing: a haunting melody that sends chills down your spine.. that to me is trance..
*edit* the one artist who has stood the sands of time and written some amazing melody lately is my favourite .. push.. his voices from the inside track brings me way back to the good days =)
| quote: | Originally posted by deceptikon
To those saying "you get bored after a while" etc etc, I still predominantly listen to stuff from the 1999-2002 era, and still get shivers when I crank a tune like Second Wave, Never Look Back, Airwave, Carte Blanche and the like. Very few tracks released over the past couple of years grab me the way tunes in the style of the ones listed did and still do. |
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| deceptikon |
Right on man, right ing on.
Btw check your pm :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
Yep I couldnt agree with you more.. Said tracks still have power because of the thought that was put into the chord progression.. IMO the genre hasnt gotten "stale" or "generic" as people like to say, its simply the melodies havent been as awe inspiring.. that's what's lacking in today's trance.. everybody's worried about production rather than about the most important thing: a haunting melody that sends chills down your spine.. that to me is trance.. |
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| Zombie0915 |
I feel like the wild playful spirit of the trance I loved has all but dissapeared, and been replaced by this snooty fake, "sophisticated" kinda aesthetic. I miss the crazy disinhibited vibe of those parties, where people would dress like psychos and flail like idiots. Now days the music seems to create an entirely different environment at a party, one where people just walkd around, drink, and point and laught at each other.
I'm not sure if it is the scene or the music, but somewhere along the way we seemed to have lost something, stangers dont hug each other anymore, people are more afraid to dance than they used to be, I see so many people who are afraid to really express themselves, it looks as if there has been an increase in the need to conform, to follow trends rather than to "express your hidden passion" like one of my fav tracks says. |
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| DJ BERKAT |
I am not going to go into lengthy discussions of classic vs modern, hey that's how time works, that's why you see a 60 year old man driving on the next lane in a 70's muscle car while you observe him from inside your BMW M6!
Things change people move on and the others who for various reasons (them be nostalgia, psychological attachments) get stuck in the past, and prefer the old parts and some people (like me) embrace the past and what they grew up listening to, but still try to find the good in what's new today (of course we all now finding the good in what's new is getting harder and harder nowadays ).
Want the old Trance back ?
Well start producing it, and start doing it the real way and show people what you think they are missing out / what real Trance sounds like. That's my philosophy.
For me I think the major element that helped contribute to Trance's decline in quality tracks, is due to the ridiculous availability of cheap tools such as software that allow any new producer to do things the easy way and make a track and start sending out demos.
As a previous poster said, and I think this is a very important point; (Trance equipment was so expensive) that those who dared venture had to be really sure that they have got some serious talent and are % 100 fit in the Trance arena, and they had to bust their wide open in order to make sure that their tracks were something else.
I said it and I have said before, the quality decline is due to the overly excessive use of Software tools.
For me I like using new technologies as long as that doesn't affect my production's quality / doesn't stop from picking up essential skills.
I have never used anything but hardware for my productions, the only time I use software is when I am recording what I am producing, and doing some final touching up for sound quality.
I like some of the Trance I hear these days, but it just misses something that the Trance before it had.
Excellent Trance is when you hear the Track for the 500th time and it's still getting better. Want some classic examples, here two amongst my top favorites ?
Sasha - Ecuador
Formula One (The Schumacher Track)
Such tracks are explosive and are so packed with energy it's ridiculous.:crazy: |
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| Synchronicity |
Your feelings on trance music present day?
E with a capital S H I T E.
Worse than cotton-eye-joe:haha: |
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| richg101 |
all i will say is that trance is now what i like to call 'underground'. the reason so many of you dislike trance of today is because you are really only open to the 'commercial' sound. trance is now more about making people dance. it wont make money, so it has to work harder to have a reason to be here.
for example 'mauro picotto - komodo' is a brilliant trance tune from the good old days. 'marcel woods - cherry blossom' is a typical example of popular tech-trance.
now komodo made picotto a good few million im sure. cherry blossom will make marcel woods a few grand at absolute max! but i know which will work a dancefloor better. cherry blossom wont make it to the top ten in pop but will work on the underground circuit.
the closed minded ones will have to wait till trance goes pop again i think.. |
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| Aesthetic |
| IMO richg trance is more pop now than it ever was.. look at armin's albums for s sake |
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| richg101 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
IMO richg trance is more pop now than it ever was.. look at armin's albums for s sake |
i understand.. but the sales of armins cd's really doesnt come close to the money that was being spent during 1999/2000. i mean think of all the artists:- binary finary, gouryella, picotto, piu, atb ferry, dj jean, push etc etc. these artists were constantly on the high end of the uk top 40. people laugh at the alice dj alias.. but i say it is as much part of trance as universal nation is... it made trance available to the masses by making a generally liked melody. i remember the days when every decent track was either by picotto, bozin/huntemann, ferry, m.i.k.e, christophe chantiz and the rank one guys... it is mad how few producers were making all those amazing trax. it reminds me of the drum and bass scenario at the moment.. and i dont think there is a bigger number of good producers. sure there are boring one hit wonders and wannabes but really there is probably the same amout of good producers, its just now we are underground we see the smaller guys more.
the internet gives people a false sense of what is going on. just cos we all sit around talking about trance doesnt mean it is really popular. we a re a tiny minority that are lucky enough to have such a rair forum system. drum and bass dont have something like this. they dont have a radio station compairable to di.fm. on the web you get to hear a whole lot of boring trance that doesnt exist in the real world. the stuff that only hangers on search for and then are dissapointed because the good producers have moved on to better things. |
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