Originally posted by Flotser
I think you are naive. Just like the world was naive before WWII.
And I think you honestly believe that mentioning Hitler will be the be all and end all of the argument...
Did Hitler envision any existiential threat when he invaded Poland? Did Hitler face the threat of nuclear annhilation?
Maybe a more useful comparison would be between America and the USSR during the Cold War, or even better, between India and Pakistan (two countries that I would say hate each other much much more than Israel and Iran)
Flotser
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
You do realize that a regime/the state != the people?
History prooves that an extermist regime can strongly affect its people. Germans were and are very nice and normal people. But the rise of Nazism made them commit unhuman acts of the worst possible kind.
It can happen to everyone, to me and to you. Its not something that can happen only to Germans.
Purple
'Regime change' and blah blah blah... go install your senator as President of every in country.. like pupet regimes in afghanistan and Iraq.. lap dogs of US..
Flotser
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Originally posted by George Smiley
And I think you honestly believe that mentioning Hitler will be the be all and end all of the argument...
No i realy dont' think so. And there is nothing i compared earlier to Hitler before to win an argument. I realy think that Ahmenidjad is the closest thing to Hitler the world has faced since WWII, and that the Islamic Fundemntalism is the closest thing to Nazism. Its an opinion.
Originally posted by Flotser
No i realy dont' think so. And there is nothing i compared earlier to Hitler before to win an argument. I realy think that Ahmenidjad is the closest thing to Hitler the world has faced since WWII, and that the Islamic Fundemntalism is the closest thing to Nazism. Its an opinion.
Excuse me but how exactly can you compare any country to Nazi Germany when they have a Jewish community and a Jewish politician? Are Jews in Iran persecuted? A large number of them protested the government for denying the Holocaust, have they been rounded up and executed?
Comparing anything to Nazism is in my book a lazy attempt at winning an argument. And I was under the impression that there was a certain unwritten internet protocol that states the first person to compare anything/one to Hitler/Nazism in a political debate loses!
Oh and it appears (from the subtitles) he's talking about the Israeli regime...
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Flotser
No i realy dont' think so. And there is nothing i compared earlier to Hitler before to win an argument. I realy think that Ahmenidjad is the closest thing to Hitler the world has faced since WWII, and that the Islamic Fundemntalism is the closest thing to Nazism. Its an opinion.
Ok seriously Flotser, you're freakin' me out here...I just watched a 5min. video of that same speech....lol!
jonSun
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Originally posted by George Smiley
Excuse me but how exactly can you compare any country to Nazi Germany when they have a Jewish community and a Jewish politician? Are Jews in Iran persecuted? A large number of them protested the government for denying the Holocaust, have they been rounded up and executed?
Yeah, & i know an Iranian Jew & he said that Iran has the largest amount of Jews to any other middle eastern country, excluding Israel ofcorse.
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Flotser
History prooves that an extermist regime can strongly affect its people. Germans were and are very nice and normal people. But the rise of Nazism made them commit unhuman acts of the worst possible kind.
It can happen to everyone, to me and to you. Its not something that can happen only to Germans.
You misunderstoof me. A regime/the state in this case refers to that of Israel (i.e. Ahmadinejad was referring to the state, not the people).
George Smiley
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Ok seriously Flotser, you're freakin' me out here...I just watched a 5min. video of that same speech....lol!
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
More like a bunch of propagandists. You have to dig through it to find any truth (to whatever extent).
True story...
Flotser
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Originally posted by George Smiley
Oh and it appears (from the subtitles) he's talking about the Israeli regime...
He and the whole crowd shout "Death to Israel"
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Originally posted by George Smiley
Excuse me but how exactly can you compare any country to Nazi Germany when they have a Jewish community and a Jewish politician? Are Jews in Iran persecuted? A large number of them protested the government for denying the Holocaust, have they been rounded up and executed?
1. I'm not saying Ahmenidjad planes to exterminate the jews. But he does plan to attack and destroy Israel, in my opinion.
2. There were 500,000 jews in Germany in 1933 and only half of them fled from Germany before the Holocaust. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...281930s-1940.29
Many german jews also didn't realy believe that they will be finally taken to extermination camps.So the fact there are jews in Iran doesn't contradict what i say.
3. All that happened was done step by step. Hitler was elected in 1930, and until 1933 he ONLY made speaches about what he thinks should be done with the jews - You know the rest. Brainwashing people takes time - but 100% it's possible and the world must stop it since the lesson was already learened.
4. I'm in no way comparing what was done to jews in the Holocaust to what Ahmenidjad does now (sending tons of weapons and money to Hizbulla and Hammas). But I do believe it will get worse and worse and i take his statemnts seriously - I think you all should because just about 70 years have passed since a preson spoke in that manner.
