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How To Get To Heaven When You Die (pg. 4)
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by xfrodobagginsx
Let me tell you the difference here. First of all, those so called "Christians" who bombed the abortion clinics, the nazis, the kkk all of those sick people disobey what the bible tells them to do. Those are not true Christians because the bible is against what those people did.
By contrast, the koran tells the muslims to kill the infidels. Those muslim extremist ARE following what the koran says to do. That is a huge difference.
On top of that, very, very few Christians actually do those types of things, nor would they subscribe to those types of things. There are hundreds of millions of muslims that support terrorism.
That is the difference. You don't see any Christians targeting women and children and killing them in the name of their religion. You do see muslims doing that. |
*breaks out the popcorn* |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
*breaks out the popcorn* |
lol :)
spamming noob vs drunken pkc... who will win? |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
lol :)
spamming noob vs drunken pkc... who will win? |
Does it matter?
Entertainment me! lol! :p :haha: |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by xfrodobagginsx
Let me tell you the difference here. First of all, those so called "Christians" who bombed the abortion clinics, the nazis, the kkk all of those sick people disobey what the bible tells them to do. Those are not true Christians because the bible is against what those people did.
By contrast, the koran tells the muslims to kill the infidels. Those muslim extremist ARE following what the koran says to do. That is a huge difference.
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Hmmm you must not have read certain parts of the bible. For the sake of brevity I shall only quote one of the most retarded (of many) passages from leviticus but I can go into qutie a number of books if you would like:
24:13 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
24:15 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
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On top of that, very, very few Christians actually do those types of things, nor would they subscribe to those types of things. There are hundreds of millions of muslims that support terrorism.
That is the difference. You don't see any Christians targeting women and children and killing them in the name of their religion. You do see muslims doing that. |
Are you a student of history? |
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by xfrodobagginsx
By contrast, the koran tells the muslims to kill the infidels. Those muslim extremist ARE following what the koran says to do. That is a huge difference.
On top of that, very, very few Christians actually do those types of things, nor would they subscribe to those types of things. There are hundreds of millions of muslims that support terrorism.
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So all the moderate muslims that are saying that killing is wrong and its not what allah wants are what, lying? And how do you know that hundreds of mollions of muslims support terrorism? Thats equaly wrong as me saying that hundreds of millions of christinas support ing pree-teen boys and we both know that isnt true rigt? |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
So all the moderate muslims that are saying that killing is wrong and its not what allah wants are what, lying? And how do you know that hundreds of mollions of muslims support terrorism? Thats equaly wrong as me saying that hundreds of millions of christinas support ing pree-teen boys and we both know that isnt true rigt? |
That is good moongoose and pkc and I are all durbnk.:eyespop: |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by xfrodobagginsx
By contrast, the koran tells the muslims to kill the infidels. Those muslim extremist ARE following what the koran says to do. That is a huge difference. |
Could you pleeeeeeease quote the Koran where is says this :conf:
| quote: | On top of that, very, very few Christians actually do those types of things, nor would they subscribe to those types of things. There are hundreds of millions of muslims that support terrorism.
That is the difference. You don't see any Christians targeting women and children and killing them in the name of their religion. You do see muslims doing that. |
Go back a few hundred years in time and you will see the exact opposite, Christians killing in the name of religion for no real reason, and Muslims supporting everyone's rights. It is just a matter of idiocity of the societies that these religions happens to be in, and not a matter of the religions. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Hmmm you must not have read certain parts of the bible. For the sake of brevity I shall only quote one of the most retarded (of many) passages from leviticus but I can go into qutie a number of books if you would like:
24:13 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
24:15 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. |
On a similar note:
| quote: | | 6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. |
Deuteronomy 13:6-11 |
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| Shaman_Axiom |
| what is breaking my balls is this: christians killing christians in ireland ,muslims killing muslims in iraq. now how the can't you see it, does this really needs any explanation. nah man its diffrent its deep its complicated, suck my holy balls. |
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| xfrodobagginsx |
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled |
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| St_Andrew |
No where there did it mention killing them though?
As far as I understand Islam, it is only okay to fight against infidels if they fight against you or if they restrict your ability to practice your religion.
| quote: | 2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion.
109:6 Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. |
I'm not saying Islam is all good - it is not. But all I'm saying is that Christianity is probably worse (just see the quotes a couple of posts up...). |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shaman_Axiom
suck my holy balls. |
:haha:
the first thing youve said that has been worthy of our attention. |
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