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Americans (re your 'use' of our native language!) (pg. 5)
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eu4ea
Point taken, but the "your dear language" isn't exactly a gold medalist in pronouncing nation titles either is it? Over 80% aren't tranlasted as they are pronounced in their native tounge.
So let's start saying Sverige instead of Sweden, Norge instead of Norway, Suomi instead of Finland, Rossia in stead of Ru-shia, Deutschland...etc.. |
I don't follow...
I believe the original point was that there is English and then there is what Americans (and others) slur and pass off as English.
Your example of what you perceive as the improper transalation of country's name from it's native language isn't really a logical retort (and I'm not sure any of us are qualified to determine how foreign words and names *ought* to be translasted into English).
i.e. the thread starter is critical of American pronounciation (I think)...while you are being critical of translation. Two different issues, no?
and you Americans for droppoing "ou" in favour of "o" alone (neighbour/neighbor, for e.g.)
lazy bastards. :p
http://www3.telus.net/linguisticsis...ianAmerican.htm |
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| *~*Angelblue*~* |
ian your beating a dead horse my dear. it's been a topic of discussion amoung many of my friends. don't let it bother you so much. believe their are much worse things to get un-nerved about.
plus why in the would anyone want to watch fox news....unless your a bush lover. |
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| Dervish |
I remember a study which said Scots actually had the best diction in the UK with Inverness topping it. (I'll try to find the source) We don't all go "haw haw year a baw bag ye wee e".
And unlike the home county types who normally recon they have the best diction we don't pronounce drawing as drawwwwwwwwring, and H as Haaaaay-ch.
To be honest though, Americans generally have better understanding grammar (though I accept that it's a different thing to pronunciation) than alot of British people. These days I recon you would be hard pressed to find higher percentage than 60% who knew what a verb actually was..... no really. It just isn't taught anymore. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~*Angelblue*~*
ian your beating a dead horse my dear. it's been a topic of discussion amoung many of my friends. don't let it bother you so much. believe their are much worse things to get un-nerved about.
plus why in the would anyone want to watch fox news....unless your a bush lover. |
lol leeann, i was just bored & trying to make a silly point, the fact it's carried on is just great ;) I love sarcasm. And yeah, bush isn't too bad from time to time, granted trimmed :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
I remember a study which said Scots actually had the best diction in the UK with Inverness topping it. (I'll try to find the source) We don't all go "haw haw year a baw bag ye wee e".
And unlike the home county types who normally recon they have the best diction we don't pronounce drawing as drawwwwwwwwring, and H as Haaaaay-ch.
To be honest though, Americans generally have better understanding grammar (though I accept that it's a different thing to pronunciation) than alot of British people. These days I recon you would be hard pressed to find higher percentage than 60% who knew what a verb actually was..... no really. It just isn't taught anymore. |
yeah, they don't teach grammar to the gobes of today cos they're just ignorant & thick, speaking totally in 'txt' form, which while ok on a messageboard will get them nowhere in the real world. |
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| A.J. |
We Aussies love to ask people from New Zealand to say stuff like:
* fish (pronounced "fush")
* chips (pronounced "chups")
* six (pronounced "sex")
Oh how they make us laugh! :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| UWM |
| Do you ask them to pronounce math? |
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| A.J. |
Are you stalking me? :p :p
Not that there's anything wrong with that..... |
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| UWM |
| LOL. No. I just felt like antagonizing someone, and since the other thread got deleted I figured I'd carry it over to one more thread. But only one more. :p |
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| wizniz |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I don't follow...
I believe the original point was that there is English and then there is what Americans (and others) slur and pass off as English.
Your example of what you perceive as the improper transalation of country's name from it's native language isn't really a logical retort (and I'm not sure any of us are qualified to determine how foreign words and names *ought* to be translasted into English).
i.e. the thread starter is critical of American pronounciation (I think)...while you are being critical of translation. Two different issues, no?
and you Americans for droppoing "ou" in favour of "o" alone (neighbour/neighbor, for e.g.)
lazy bastards. :p
http://www3.telus.net/linguisticsis...ianAmerican.htm |
it says americans spell cigarette "cigaret".
no... we dont. nor have i ever seen that. |
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| gehzumteufel |
its interesting to see people from the uk so critical of us USA peeps that we "bastardized" their language. well if thats the case then the brits bastardized german and french!
fortunatley its called a dialect although most people dont acknowledge this fact it is the hard truth. US English is a dialect of British English. many many languages around the world are dialects of other langues. some examples below.
ukrainian dialect of russian
swiss german dialect of german
who cares where you are from and if the language is any different. they are what they are because of isolation. dialects evolve from being isolated.
so get over yourself and dont make a big deal about something so petty. |
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| brian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian
So I was totally bored this morning when I woke up & decided to flick through news stations, only to hear about some new countries which apparently are very important right now. According to the newsreaders on both CNN & Fox, we have a conflict with countries phoentically said as Eye-Rack and Eye-Ran but they name another one Is-Rail I proceeded to back away & turn over to a channel I could trust, however remembering that the bbc are , I sat in the corner & rocked back & forth.
How can you explain such a horrible-sounding debauchery on our dear language.
short cor version for boomer
You know, we could have sex.
But let's not. |
Since you obviously want to get technical about your "dear language," I have written up several tips.
* Beginning sentences with "so" is bad form.
* Using an ampersand in place of the word "and" is also bad form.
* You're missing one period and one comma.
* You used a period when you should have used a question mark.
* You have two sentence fragments, one without proper punctuation and capitalization.
How can you explain such debaucheries on your dear language? |
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| wizniz |
lawl they teach us grammar and such at american school.
a lot :( |
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