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WTF?? Judge throws out case because of lawyers suit colour
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| Jayx1 |
Yet the prosecuting attourney who was a woman was wearing a loud purple blazer. If there were ever a case involving sexism, this is it!
| quote: | A colourful Toronto paralegal is seeing red after his forceful ejection from court for a fashion crime.
Harry Kopyto alleges that a Toronto cop "manhandled" him out of a Scarborough court yesterday after a justice of the peace adjourned a case because of his attire.
When city prosecutor Janet Stoeckl complained about Kopyto's multi-coloured open-neck shirt and his textured burnt-orange jacket, speeding charges against Kopyto's client were brought to a halt.
According to Kopyto and his client, Paul Lamy, the JP -- whose identity neither man can provide -- said Kopyto's jacket "clashes"with his shirt and was "a breach" of court decorum.
'POINTED SHOES'
Kopyto said the JP suggested a white shirt and a dark suit.
When Kopyto retaliated and complained about Stoecki's "spike-heeled, pointed shoes and loud purple top," the JP ordered Kopyto to "leave this courtroom."
"He should know the Highway Traffic Act ... he is not a fashionista. We go to court for his judgment, not for what he thinks is au courant in the haberdashery," Kopyto fumed.
He said that as he turned to get into his briefcase, Toronto Police Const. Kevin Drake, acting without authorization, grabbed him by the arm and bent his wrist.
Drake was in room E1 at the Scarborough provincial offences court on Markham Rd. to testify that he had stopped Lamy for speeding on Hwy. 401 and is not a court officer, Kopyto said.
"He kept on pulling me and pulling me and pulling me through the exit doors," Kopyto said.
Just after Drake whisked him out of court, several court officers -- whom he presumes answered a silent alarm -- ran down the hall and into court, Kopyto said.
"I hope you're not coming back into the courtroom," Kopyto said one officer told him.
"I think they set him up," Lamy added.
"Yes, he had a blazing shirt that showed through his loud jacket ... but he was clean."
Kopyto balked a bit at the JP's statements about his attire, but he was not disrespectful, Lamy said.
"I don't think they like (Kopyto). I think the police officer had no business touching this man ... the police officer had no reason, in any way, shape or form to ... put him in an arm lock like that ... I was surprised," Lamy said.
Neither Stoeckl nor Drake could be reached for comment.
Court officials refused to give the name of the JP in courtroom E1, nor would they contact him. The supervisor of the court did not return calls.
'OUT OF TOUCH'
Kopyto said he loves the colourful shirt because his daughter bought it for him when he visited her in Fiji this summer.
He is threatening a charter of rights challenge in Lamy's case, as well as a civil suit against Drake and a complaint about the JP.
He said he will sue Drake for $1 "just to make a point."
Provincial offences courts are typically "out of touch" and "elitist," he said, adding that many JPs think they are "anointed, not appointed."
"They are not there for their competence or intelligence, but 'cause they worked on someone's election campaign."
Before his disbarment as a lawyer in the early 1990s, Kopyto set a court precedent which overturned a long-standing law which had forbidden criticism of judges. |
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| patpicos |
thats ed up.
Cops and Judges think they are gods and above everyone
Im behind that lawyer.....although i despise lawyers in general lol! |
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| malek |
there's a decorum to respect in courts.
a court isn't a lounge. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
there's a decorum to respect in courts.
a court isn't a lounge. |
but it is too subjective. and the story seem to say that they have some grudge against the lawyer in question..
and the way the cop acted was overboard, the guy was not a threat to anyone (well maybe to fashion haters ! lol)
id like to see how the guy was dressed tho to make a better judgement |
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| darouge11 |
| LOL...i heard that on the radio on the way to work...i started laughing when i heard that non-sense |
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| Swamper |
| A 'Justice of the Peace' is not a judge. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
there's a decorum to respect in courts.
a court isn't a lounge. |
then why was the guy told to wear a dark suit when the women lawyer was wearing purple?? |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | | He said he will sue Drake for $1 "just to make a point." |
LMFAO. What the hell is wrong with people? These guys need a life. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
LMFAO. What the hell is wrong with people? These guys need a life. |
actually i think its quite honourable that hed go after these people for the sake of justice and not just a money grab. The point does need to be made in this case. |
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| Abercrombie |
There's a reason the symbol of the legal system is a lady who is blindfolded (holding up a scale).
You don't want lawyers to use clothing to the advantage of their clients.
For example... just what would happen if the lawyer you're up against, wears a cleavage enhancing bra and open blouse, and you got that judge who got busted for using a penis pump during trial? you lost your case no matter what. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
There's a reason the symbol of the legal system is a lady who is blindfolded (holding up a scale).
You don't want lawyers to use clothing to the advantage of their clients.
For example... just what would happen if the lawyer you're up against, wears a cleavage enhancing bra and open blouse, and you got that judge who got busted for using a penis pump during trial? you lost your case no matter what. |
LOL! |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
Judges think they are gods and above everyone
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I once had a man come into my office when I worked in Milton. I was apparently "tailgating" him down hwy 25. I distinctly remember that day and know for a fact I was not tailgating anyone. I would have admitted if I was cuz yes I can be a very agressive driver at times. So anyhow, this man came into my place of employment wearing an overcoat all dressed up demanding to talk to me. So he sits down at my desk and starts to tell me that I was in the wrong and is going on and on and that I shouldn't tailgate ppl. At this time, I am frustrated cuz you obviously don't have any consideration of asking me to step outside but are doing this in front of ALL my collegues now as well. So I simply asked what the point of this was and said that if I thought I was wrong I would admit it. At this time my manager has to step in and ask him to leave cuz he is starting to harass me and she asked that he do this at another time or setup a time to discuss this somewhere else cuz I am working and it isn't the time or place. So he leaves.
20 minutes later, a cop shows up at my place of employment. Even better eh? And asks me to step outside. I was like :wtf:.
So the cop says to me, "you were tailgating this morning I hear?". Now, I am pissed!!! I simply told him how it was and that I wasn't tailgating and I would have admitted it if I was. He was really nice about it all and said that maybe I wasn't, but all the man simply wanted from me was an apology and if he did't get it he was going to charge me. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Once the cop said that then I was pissed and I started going off about, who in their right minds does sort of to ppl and and their place of employment nonetheless and blah blah blah. I was ripping into him now. I did say at the end of it all then if that is all he wants then I am sorry; the cop said ok I will tell him you apologized.
And then he says, "if you weren't tailgating the Supreme Court of Canada judge I wouldn't be sitting over here getting an apology from you wasting both mine and your time!" :eek:
So needless to say, I am happy to see what taxpayers are spending their money on when Judges have cops come over for stupid little things like that and I have the same theory that they think they are Gods. I can respect the fact that he is a Supreme Court Judge, but not when they are like that.
(I will also note, he did not identify himself whatsoever when he first walked into my office either, obviously or I probably wouldn't have had a cop at my office either)
/rant over.. just thought I would share.. lol :p |
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