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Is Trance The Hardest Style To Get Sounding Good?? (pg. 4)
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| echosystm |
| this thread reminds me of hardware vs. software |
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| echosystm |
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| Derivative |
Yeah, pretty much. Full of people making excuses for why they suck.
If its really that easy to produce hip hop or trance then do so and make it a goodun'
Truth is, even if you did - just to prove you can, it will probably suck anyway. Because theres so fecking soul in it.
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| EtherealSL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
If you don't know many people who can fill in the gaps in your knowledge for you, then you will find it difficult. |
this is true, but what i'm saying is that within trance there is a stereotype... or a generic sound that everyone could relate to where dnb doesn't have that. There is no dj sammy to dnb.
I've given dnb a shot, and yea, it actually sounds like dnb and has gotten played etc etc, but my dnb productions take a lot longer than trance. It's a more innovative genere imo... and it's only growing right now |
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| mysticalninja |
ok glock party.. i hear a hoover in the background and chops in 16ths and 32ths alot, now i hear an amen lmfao.. ok when it drops its pretty sick.
DJ Sammy to DNB: Pendulum.
that said i think there is more variety in dnb music.. that personally isnt the kind of dnb i like.. i like it more chill relaxed.. screw is on and i like this better. still im into dnb with rhodes, pads, melodys and ambientness.. ak1200 dom & roland etc. This beats arent really that complex.. Screw up uses some of the same old ass drum loops everyone uses since like 95. its alright.. i dont like edm that tries to sound hard tho.. cause in 3-4 years it sounds like cheese. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Interesting subject.
I know a lot of house producers. Most of them are pretty clueless when it comes to production techniques but they are releasing tracks and getting them signed. |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
have to agree with this. making the cross from producing trance to house is very easy. trance is full of new elements happening constantly. house is very repetitive with its structure. |
the reason you have clueless house producers is because they think like this. honestly, because of the "house boom" or whatever you want to call it you have a bunch of trance producers trying to cross over...and well they can't do it successfully...
a bad producer is a bad producer...can't get around that one |
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| mysticalninja |
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bump this .. tell me what u think seriiously less than an hours work.. thats the kind of dnb i like.. kind of minimal all it needs is a bridge and some kind of fast shaker/bongo loop. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
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bump this .. tell me what u think seriiously less than an hours work.. thats the kind of dnb i like.. kind of minimal all it needs is a bridge and some kind of fast shaker/bongo loop. |
i like it...that's a nice little loop. but just as with a trance track...that isn't a full tune. you could probably make just as nice a trance intro section in the same amount of time... |
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| Agility |
No, DnB is far harder(C'mon, Pendulum, Nosia- NOT EASY), the hardest style i've tried to make. I produce UK Hardcore too and that's much harder imo aswell, Probably as for me, Trance is alot simpler.
However that's not saying Trance is easy to sound good, just those styles are harder to do so, imo. |
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| mysticalninja |
pendulum isnt hard + its cheese. quality dnb: diesil boy... ak1200.
UK hardcore you mean like UK hardhouse? i produce that too.. takes more skills than dnb imo, mainly because you dont have loops that already fill in the song for you, and you have to do lots of effects and such to get single hit samples to mesh together, harder than getting loops sounding good. trance and such just has alot more going on at once = harder to eq and mix. |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
the reason you have clueless house producers is because they think like this. honestly, because of the "house boom" or whatever you want to call it you have a bunch of trance producers trying to cross over...and well they can't do it successfully...
a bad producer is a bad producer...can't get around that one |
Absolutely.
I have however also noticed a lot of first time producers out there, who have just relaised that they can jump on the band wagon also.
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With regards to some of the other posts that state that there is no commercial DnB... not true, you get all sorts of dance inspired tracks that rip off just about every charecterising element in all the major forms of dance music.
DJ Sammy seems to be on everybodies list and I'm not even sure why people care?
In my opinion, if people spent as much time on their own productions as berating others they might learn something.
With music there is a learning curve just as there is sound engineering and home producers have basically taken on both of them at the same time. Just give it time, it will come, make the music you like and be happy with the fact that you can.
Cheers
Nem |
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