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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Is the world under any delusions that Russia is still a democratic/liberal county?
And since it has demonstrated it is not, why should Russia participate in the democratic/liberal clubs such as the WTO, G8, etc? |
Couldnt agree more.
Give em 5 more years & people will be waiting in line a week for toilet paper again. :wtf: |
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| Marc Summers |
| PUTIN DID IT! |
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| Krypton |
Politics. The west needs russia's support against Iran, North Korea, and russia supplies huge amounts of oil to eastern europe. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Politics. The west needs russia's support against Iran, North Korea, and russia supplies huge amounts of oil to eastern europe. |
Russia needs the West more than the West needs Russia.
As was demonstrated for 50+ years the West has done very well for itself without Russia, there should be no doubt that it will go on and do well for itself without it too.
The rift and irrationality in Russia's foreign policy and its barbaric behavior to its own countryman, simply shouldn't be tolerated.
Russia should have consequences for its actions (just as the USA and other countries do), it should not be exempt form this... yet for some reason Russia will be able to do things to its political dissidents it was not even able to do during the cold war.
Crazy world we live in, it just gets worse and worse by the day lately:( |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Couldnt agree more.
Give em 5 more years & people will be waiting in line a week for toilet paper again. :wtf: |
You couldn't be more wrong.
While people in the US were still using old computer monitors, Russia had already switched to flat-panel everywhere.
Cell phone usage in Russia is several times more widespread than in America
Cables in Russian cities are under the ground, not susceptible to storms or outages, while America still clings to ancient ugly poles.
And: where in the world, with the exception of Dubai, is there currently the greatest number of skyscrapers being built? Moscow. |
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| Lilith |
Russia has 17.8% of its population living below subsistance level.
An infant mortality rate of 15 in 1000
Unemployment of 7.6% (and massive underemployment)
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 1.7%
highest 10%: 38.7% (1998)
inflation of 11%
US has 12% of its population living below subsistance level
An infant mortality rate of 6.5 in 1000
Unemployment of 5.1%
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 1.8%
highest 10%: 30.5%
inflation of 3.2%
Bet theyre just real glad those cables and flat screen TV's, mobile phones and so on are nutritious because thats just what's so damn important in the world. |
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| metalgearsolid |
I didn't want to do this. But here are some more reasons why to hate Russia.
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Russian cuisine is wretched. Russian cuisine is so gross and unreformed it can't even make headway in New York City, with a giant population of Russians. Most dishes which it claims as "Russian" are in fact merely coopted from other countries. You would think that a cuisine so insanely unhealthy would at least be full of guility taste pleasures. Think again.
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Russians are greedy and arrogant. Impoverished Russia has the world's highest-paid female athlete, Maria Sharapova, but she donates less than 0.5% of her astronomical income to charity and virtually nothing to Russia. Nobody says a thing about it, and Russia chose Sharapova to front its recent Olympic bid.
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Russia is sick and doesn't care. By 2020, 10% of the Russian population will be infected with AIDS. 300,000 people are killed by cigarettes each year, which cost less than a quarter a pack. President Putin barely mentions these topics in his speeches and does nothing serious about them, yet his support continues at nosebleed levels even as Russians become extinct.
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Russians are lazy and inefficient. Russia's GDP is smaller than that of tiny Netherlands. Its per capita GDP is exceeded by Uruguay.
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Sports and Russia are like oil and water. FIFA. Tennis. Waterpolo. Figure skating. Ice Hockey. Disasters, everywhere you turn.
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Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. The man actually said once with a straight face that there is not one single person in the whole FSB who could be capable of having planted bombs in Russian apartment buildings to stir up support for the war in Chechnya. He stole his PhD disseration. He has a secret resume. He's the worst possible thing for Russia imaginable.
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Russians are crazed authoritarians. In a recent public opinion poll, no candidate received more support to become Russia's next president than the maniacal Vladimir Zhirinovsky (who, by the way, Russians also named their country's sexiest man).Russia has never once in a thousand years transferred power between rival political factions by means of an election. Russia is still singing the music of the anthem of the USSR, a totally failed state that caused the deaths of far more Russians than all the country's foreign enemies combined. Two-thirds of Russians believe that Vladimir Putin will break the Constitution and continue in power, so they conclude the Constitution should be changed to let him remain in power legally.
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Nobody likes Russia. America, supposedly loathed by the world, has five times more international tourist arrivals than Russia.
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Russia is insanely aggressive and militaristic. Russia still has the draft and a giant nuclear arsenal. Russia has been fighting a war against Chechnya for years, and is supplying rogue nations with weapons, including weapons of mass destruction. Russia is providing aid and comfort to terrorist regimes in Iran and Palestine, yet any support by foreigners for Chechnya is viewed as outrageous.
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Russia hates families, especially women and children. Domestic violence kills one Russian woman every 40 minutes. Ten times more Russian women are killed by their husbands than American women by theirs, although America has twice Russia's population That means a woman's chances of being killed by her husband are twenty times greater if she is a Russian. More than 1,200 adopted children have been murdered by their parents in Russia since 1991. The general murder rate in Russia is the fifth highest in the world even though the secret police run its government.
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35,000 people are killed on Russia's highways every year, which based on the relatively few cars impoverished Russians are able to afford is a shocking number. Judged on fatalities per car on the road, Russia has ten times more fatalities than countries like Germany and Great Britain.
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Russia is literally going extinct; at least 750,000 people are lost from the population each year, and that is only if you trust the Kremlin's numbers. If not, it's a million or more.
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Russians think that Anna Kournikova, who never won a single singles title in her entire professional tennis career and who, though touted as a great beauty while she was playing promptly disappeared from the face of the earth when she stopped, makes them look good. Can you imagine who Russians think makes them look bad?
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Just in case you doubted the Number One Reason to be a Russophobe, here's more evidence of Russian hatred for the family: Russia and its kissing cousin Belarus lead the world in destruction of the family through divorce, with two out of three Russian marriages ending that way.
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The education system! Russian diplomas are for sale, from every university including Russia's versions of Harvard and Yale. Meanwhile, Russia go on haughtily proclaiming that it is the outside world, especially Americans, who are ignorant. Russian professors are paid slave wages, often much less than the national average of $300 per month, making them easy prey for bribery. Even many Russian experts agree that the quality of the resulting graduates is a joke.
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Russians are horrible at foreign languages and couldn't care less. Russians translate Huck Finn without his grammar errors, butcher reams of other foreign material, and yet scream to high heaven with indignation whenever foreigners mess up Russian and pretend to be more literary than Americans. Their inability to communicate successfully with the outside world is legendary, yet Russians do virtually nothing about it.
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Russians actually like crazed dictator Alexander Lukashenko, and they don't care who knows it.
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Russian unites all ideologies . . . in contempt of Russia. Here is what the ultra-liberal Amnesty International has to say about Russia in a nutshell: "Almost 15 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation is still far from the democracy many hoped it would become. Since coming into office in 1996, president Vladimir Putin has consolidated executive power, eliminating the election of regional governors, squashing freedom of press, harassing human rights defenders, and continually abusing civilians in the guise of a war on terror in the North Caucasus. In addition, the harsh economic and social transition has given rise to increasing domestic violence and racial hate crimes. Speaking in Washington, D.C. in October 2005, Moscow Helsinki Group founder Liudmilla Alexeevna warned that she hoped there would be no “color” revolution in Russia soon, because it would more likely be brown than orange." Here is what the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation has to say about Russia in a nutshell: "As NGOs feared, the regulations issued by the government agencies in response to the law have introduced harsh restrictions on NGO performance. From now on, NGOs will have to report every detail of their activities. An activity report form is seven small-print pages long and includes accounts of performance, both of the substance of an NGO’s work and its expenses. If money is spent on putting on events, the NGO must detail their number, the topics, and participation. Foreign organizations, such the Heritage Foundation’s Moscow office, also must indicate the cost of office supplies. The regulations will significantly increase an NGO’s expenses.Russian rights organizations are unanimous in their belief that the worst expectations of this new law are justified. If an NGO cannot be banned directly, the red tape, all-out control, endless check-ups, and a stepped-up financial burden could smother it."
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Russia is fundamentally corrupt and appears to be proud of it. In 2005, the Transparancy International review ranked Russia tied the 9th most corrupt nation on the face of the planet, yet virtually nothing is being done to reform this atmosphere and most Russians laugh it off.
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Toilets. About a third of Russian homes still have an outhouse. And as for public toilets, port-a-potties are state of the art. Russia has few public restrooms.
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Suicide. One Russian person kills him/herself every ten minutes in Russia (that adds up t0 60,000 per year or 41 suicides per 100,000 people -- only Lithunania has more). That just about says it all, doesn't it? This figure is four times higher than for the United States.
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I like the fact that 24 married women are killed each day by their husbands. Russian people are not very nice. |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
You couldn't be more wrong.
While people in the US were still using old computer monitors, Russia had already switched to flat-panel everywhere.
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"Old" computer monitors would be single color CRTs. regardless, the use of a certain type of electronic device says little about the progressivness of a society.
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Cell phone usage in Russia is several times more widespread than in America
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Mobile phone usages is higher in EVERY country but the US, due in large part to the population density spectrum of the US, along with the prevalence of "land line" telephones already in use. Getting people who are already connected easily to people via one medium to switch to a new medium is much harder than getting people who have limited connectivity to adopt a "newer" technology. It is also much easier to buils a wireless infrastructure than the "old fashioned" wired one both logisiticlaly and monetarily.
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Cables in Russian cities are under the ground, not susceptible to storms or outages, while America still clings to ancient ugly poles.
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Cables in many american cities are also underground. But the prevalence of overhead transmission lines in the US has more to do with labor politics with regards to the Linesman's Union than to a "backwardsness" of the culture.
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And: where in the world, with the exception of Dubai, is there currently the greatest number of skyscrapers being built? Moscow. |
Supply vs. Demand: There are already a large number of "skyscrapers" (the term is ambiguous as the term was first used to describe a 14 story building in St Louis 100 years ago) in US metropolitan areas that are having trouble finding tenants. It does not make good business sense to build a new "skyscraper" next door to one that cannot find anyone even remotely interested in using that space.
I don't think Russia will have bread and toilet paper lines as the country is not the same as it was in the Soviet era. The comment of Russia needing "the west" more than "the West" needing Russia is also inaccurate. In an increasingly consumer driven Western society the abundant natural resources in Russia make it a very important trading entity. I would consider the relationship to be lightly more symbiotic.
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| star-traveller |
People CONTINUE TO WRITE !!! metalgearsolid YOU ROCK !!!
I've never laughed on your stupid posts so much !!!
You people talk about Russia and haven't been there at all.
All I see is the thread full of ignorant people showing their prejudiced opinion on a matter. Don't even want bothering to go in a dispute. |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
You couldn't be more wrong.
While people in the US were still using old computer monitors, Russia had already switched to flat-panel everywhere.
Cell phone usage in Russia is several times more widespread than in America
Cables in Russian cities are under the ground, not susceptible to storms or outages, while America still clings to ancient ugly poles.
And: where in the world, with the exception of Dubai, is there currently the greatest number of skyscrapers being built? Moscow. |
Well i was kidding about the week wait toilet paper part. But what are they gonna do about the swollen crainium problem.? :wtf: |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
People CONTINUE TO WRITE !!! metalgearsolid YOU ROCK !!!
I've never laughed on your stupid posts so much !!!
You people talk about Russia and haven't been there at all.
All I see is the thread full of ignorant people showing their prejudiced opinion on a matter. Don't even want bothering to go in a dispute. |
Impossible idiot. I have been to Russia. And talked to some of the people there. I have no prejudiced opinion on Russians'. Just when you go there and talk to the people of all ages. You get to see how primitive they are, when you ask their opinions social matters. Some not all. And than the women there don't even take marriage seriously and neither do the males.
The males don't even have to take off the wedding ring; when they are sleeping around with other females other than their wifes. And you know what they call a person from the Caucasus? They call them '******s'. And they aren't even black. On top of that they drink like crazy. And every block was filled with empty bottles of alcohol. People there drink at all times of the day. And when they are finished drinking their bottle they simply throw it to the side of the street. I thought Paris was dirty, but man the city I went to was much more dirty than PAris. And it didn't even have a quarter of Paris's population.
And than I gave my number to the hotel to this one beautiful blonde. She called me and I went over to her house. And guess what? She had pictures of her family and husband next to her bed. And here WE were ready to have sex on the bed where they slept. I had to restraint myself so badly. I never will have sex with a married women. That is completly disrespectful and I wouldn't like it if my wife cheated on me. You'd figure this would have only been one incident. But for the months I stayed there. I realised it wasn't as uncomman. I had the opportunity to have slept with five different married women. And when I went out with married men. They did nothing but hit on other women. Who weren't their wifes. Marriage there is really a sad joke.
But hey the Russian's are nice sober or drunk. Maybe just not in Moscow......and as long as you are white:p |
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