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Is epic trance stupid?? (pg. 5)
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| Lilith |
'Epic trance'
Haven't heard that one bandied around as a description before. |
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| sljiva |
| to make a long story short - yes, it's ing stupid |
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| Subtle |
a trance tune spans from 7-11 minutes long. which given the length is pretty epic, and its just a part of what trance is. as for the uplifting trance, thats the biggest bull ever invented.
All music is uplifting if the listener likes it.
What uplifting really is, is cheesy, catchy.
Epic trance ? how can you say that something is epic and something isnt ?
well.. i can say for sure, that a radio edit isnt epic. but apart from that i`d pretty much say all trance is epic. just a part of what trance is. |
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| sljiva |
| like pretty much all music genres, epic trance is not defined with the lenght of a track |
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| sljiva |
you forgot:
THIS ONE
AND THIS ONE
man i just love these old videos...
and yes, it's ing stupid to put ibiza trance as a genre (and love stimulation under it) and not to put, let's say, progressive psy or full on or electro house or whateveer |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by sljiva
like pretty much all music genres, epic trance is not defined with the lenght of a track |
tell me what is defined then ? enlighten me please. |
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| thoughtlessjex |
| quote: | Originally posted by rochambeau
No. That's what effect it had. Has nothing to do with how good the music itself is. Time to roll the dice. |
How can you sit there and say kicking anything downhill is not a bad thing?
You need to read what you're posting from what others are seeing. Personally, I see, "Good (that is to say, toughtfully and creatively produced), sometimes genre defining, music effected Trance's death by being popular, and is thus responsible for it."
How? If some of the most trancy music, from Union Jack to LSG is selling like Hotcakes, how does this in anyway cause a genre's death? |
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| sljiva |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
tell me what is defined then ? enlighten me please. |
so out of the blue (original mix) is epic trance and out of the blue (edit) is what? progressive, classic? give me a ing break...
i hate to describe genres with words. i can't do that on my own language, so on english it would be disaster. but i think armin once said that he hates "commercial, formulaic music with a vocal, breakdown and big a riff" (ironically he plays that ). and that could be pretty accurate description of epic trance. maybe you could add overblown, supersaw oriented, predictable dutch that came after quite decent progressive period. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by sljiva
so out of the blue (original mix) is epic trance and out of the blue (edit) is what? progressive, classic? give me a ing break...
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Look, dude. this is no time to be a smartass.
I have no idea what epic trance is. In fact i don`t think anyone actually do.
My own assumption of what epic trance is, that its long, its huge and it tells a story.
a short edit of any of those tracks are none of the above. |
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| KilldaDJ |
| does anyone have any epic house? LOL |
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| thoughtlessjex |
What sljiva and Subtle seem to be forgetting is that genre names don't necessarily have to make sense in relation to the music itself; what the hell does "House" have to do with the music it describes. It's called epic trance because some etard and his friends decided that overbearing synths playing happy, catchy melodies with big sweeps and reverbs was "epic." The trend caught on, and now the term applies to all trance music that can be described as uplifting, or melodic. In fact, those last two are also names for this style. But what the term really means is not at all inherent in its definition.
Part of the difficulty in defining epic trance is that the term, "epic" is more broad-reaching than Ishkur would like you to believe. for instance, Anthem is really just another name for epic trance, and many of the songs in Ibiza are widely considered to be epic.
So what is epic? It's mostly in the way it treats chord changes. Whereas in most trance genres (Hard Dance) and Morning Psy excluded) use changes in the bass-line to manage energy levels, epic trance tends to use them melodically. Epic trance also goes for a brighter atmosphere most of the time.
Obviously, this is only a rough definition, and along the borders between epic and other genres, categorization becomes difficult or even impossible. This is the realm of the naysayers who use it as proof that genres are bunk, but they forget that these tracks are the exceptions, not rules. |
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| Zild |
| House definitely makes sense because at first people would go to the record store and ask the clerk if they had any music that was played at the Warehouse. So then the clerks started putting that type of music together and labeling it 'played at the Warehouse'. Then after a little bit it was just shortened to House. People would come in and ask if they had any new house music. Definitely makes a lot of sense. |
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