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reason or logic ? (pg. 2)
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| Felix.Hoo |
The best advice here is try out both and get the one you like and most comfortable with
It not really impt what you use... but what music u can create. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Felix.Hoo
The best advice here is try out both and get the one you like and most comfortable with
It not really impt what you use... but what music u can create. |
Yes. It seems like what a lot of people are really looking for is a perfect group of presets that will let them bang out a few bog standard but "pro-sounding" trance tracks within a week, and if they don't like the group of presets provided by one program or synth, they immediately flock to another program (or come to the TA producers' forum and ask which one they should flock to). |
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| Amfora |
wtf.... if u cant get quality sound out of reason then its not reasons fault, but yours. It takes some time to make that amzing sounds but reason can do it. there is a whole package of fx available and that is just the part that makes reason strong. It doesnt eat much cpu like most vst do. So less cpu for a fx is....more fx on ur sounds. When u use the fx right, there always come a quality sound. And i make trance aswell minimal with it. When i have time i will drop a sample off my latest trance track whole produced in reason.
its just a choice you make, but i really love that prog.
cheers |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by lowski
hey there i was wondering which would be better to produce with.
i have already used reason 3 and found it to be all right but i was wondering what the big shots use
i was also thinking about sticking to reason and adding ableton with it??
im quit lost so any info would be great thanx |
You have no idea what you have started ;) |
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| psymon.d |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
A toy used by amateurs like Robert Nickson and Luke Vibert. :rolleyes: |
don't forget Daniel Kandi ;) |
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| lowski |
yes i am very seriuos about producing
and i do like daniel kandis work
wow there is a lot of good pionts here, i have used reason but i dont like the synths they all seem cheesey and i dont want to sit there and build new sounds it takes away from the creative process big time
but with logic pro 7 does that come with sounds or do i have to use other programs?, because i dont know anything about how to use diffrent programs with each other and i not have anyone to teach me, so im kinda ed.
plus i hate the rack idea, maybe im doing it wrong but by the time you get to your 20th or 30th sound its just to big i would like each channel to have its own rack
What im really maybe asking is, is logic pro tough to learn beacause i would really like to give it a try.
thanks for the advice everyone, amd if any of you could lead me to some sites were i could read up on logic it would be much appretiated
thanks |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Logic is not that tough to learn.
| quote: | Originally posted by lowski
i dont want to sit there and build new sounds it takes away from the creative process big time |
"Sitting there and building new sounds" is part of the creative process, and it is something you will have to learn to do with any program unless you want to make bog standard tracks. If "sitting there and building new sounds" is something that doesn't appeal to you, then I would suggest you stay away from trance production. The last thing trance needs is more derivative silliness built with the same old presets.
"Musical" (melodic, harmonic, rhythmic) options in trance are pretty limited if you want to make anything that DJs are actually going to play out in a club. This is why the sounds are where the innovation is at. And innovation means learning about how synthesis works and how to "sit there and build new sounds," however tedious that might seem to you. |
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| lowski |
| also im not a big fan of the effects in reason, is there refill effects that i could try? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| There are refills that use combinations of the existing effects units, but you cannot import VST or other effects units. |
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| lowski |
ok ok i do agree with you about building sounds but it would be nice to have some good presets for some one at my level so i can make tracks like the ones i hear today, and then start putting my own style into it and really exploring what a program can do.
has anyone read any of the Thomson books on reason 3 , logic pro 7, and ableton 5. im wondering if they would anwser alot of questions i may have. I read the reason 2.5. ignite book by thomson and found it a bit elemtry
what are your guys thoughts?? |
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| bluebird |
if you have access to reason 2.5, there is an rps file in the demo folder, Realization, a kickass composition in my oppinion
that's the best i can do for "effect presets"
ive used Reason Overdrive... all i remember is sidechaning, bass synthesis and something about kicks... that's all i needed :) i found it useful all in all. the author is a psych trance producer
for me, the effects are one minute deal. the type and quality are set to taste, i don't even bother rationalizing what it is that im doing. most of the time is spent setting just the right ammount, finetuning |
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