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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Philosophy is more a science than modern chemistry is. :)
It's intellectually pure, in stark opposition to the suspicious motivations behind modern chemistry ;) |
you're not suggesting that chemistry itself has suspicious motivations, are you? :conf:
assuming you aren't, suggesting that philosophers' motivations are purer than those of chemists is too broad a generalization, to say the least.
edit: i clicked 'quote' about 40 minutes ago, if what i'm stating has already been stated since, this reply will be deleted. |
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| idoru |
| Congratulations and such, Rob. :) |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
you're not suggesting that chemistry itself has suspicious motivations, are you? :conf:
assuming you aren't, suggesting that philosophers' motivations are purer than those of chemists is too broad a generalization, to say the least. |
Certainly not! Read my follow up post ;)
Comparing institutional motivation to personal motivation is an entirely different story. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Do you mean now? Because science would not exist without philosophy - The first philosophers WERE the first scientists. How familiar are you with the likes of Thales and the other presocratics?
Edit: And nothing I posted isn't "real," it's simply not your perception of how things are. |
I'm actually way more into pre socratic than I am into Plato etc. Although we don't have very much from him and most of it is very cryptic I agree very much with Heraclitus. I do believe anything that anyone percieves is real. But that isn't what I meant. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceDJ
RJT, you should be the poster-child of the fact that you can still be a pothead and excel in school...I'm sick of people telling me I'm going to be stupid and not be able to make it through college if I smoke weed, jeesh. |
haha, those people are jaded/ignorant. i know a lot of people who are potheads/crackheads (not actual crack addicts) who are really successful in university, in some of the hardest programs out there. |
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| Zild |
| I know many successful doctors, lawyers, scientists who use marijuana and other drugs. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I'm actually way more into pre socratic than I am into Plato etc. Although we don't have very much from him and most of it is very cryptic I agree very much with Heraclitus. I do believe anything that anyone percieves is real. But that isn't what I meant. |
I think the presocratics did a pretty good job of getting the ball rolling, even if I don't agree with pretty much any of the conclusions they made about reality.
The bottom line is that I think you and I have fundamentally differing views on the academic community. I don't think either of us discounts the value of the other side (I certainly have massive appreciation for anyone engaged in scientific inquiry), but we certainly view the processes in vastly different ways. Nothing wrong with that, loads of the issues between philosophers and what is generally considered the academic community have failed to be resolved for centuries - Why assume either of us could sort them out in c0r? :p
Cheers to the intelligent discourse though! :) |
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| Zild |
| Yeah I just had to say something when I saw science being bashed. Congrats on your success and all and for having good conversation. I'm a little bored here until the next semester kicks up. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Certainly not! Read my follow up post ;)
Comparing institutional motivation to personal motivation is an entirely different story. |
lets continue then - how do you quantify purity (of intention, i presume) to begin with? |
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| Zild |
| No don't do it you're going to get him started on the philosophy again. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
lets continue then - how do you quantify purity (of intention, i presume) to begin with? |
I don't intend to quantify it at all, nor does anything I've posted in this thread indicate that I had ever planned to. |
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| asfdz |
One more day to go for me!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand your excitement :D :D |
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