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"Say what you will, but it goes off HUGE in a club!" (pg. 3)
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| Zild |
| If it means someone who is much better than you are then yes. But I'm figuring its POM speak for a jerk or something like that. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| It means you're an idiot. Specifically due to your laughable attempts to get a rise out of people. |
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| Zild |
| Laughable. I was being serious. In addition I only care about myself so if someone likes DJ Sammy thats not my problem. Was just saying I can stomach music I normally dislike when I'm so ed up I can't get up to leave. |
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| UWM |
| Enter System-J, thread falls apart. Shock. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Laughable. I was being serious. In addition I only care about myself so if someone likes DJ Sammy thats not my problem. Was just saying I can stomach music I normally dislike when I'm so ed up I can't get up to leave. |
I'm sure you were. Didn't stop me smirking though. You always manage to fit in a comment about you hate trance at the very slightest excuse... on TA. I can appreciate you're here for the discussion of other genres, but the only reason you post e like that is to get a bit of attention. And yes, the irony. |
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| Zild |
| No its because I'm bored. Wait until university kicks back up I'll stay in the DJ and Production forums where I belong. |
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| idoru |
I don't care. It could be the track that gets the hugest response worldwide, and I still might not like it. Crowd response has absolutely zilch, zero, nada, nothing to do with how I personally (See that? Personally. My opinion is not the opinion of others.) perceive the track musically.
I'm not going to say, "Hey, the crowd loves it, so it's good," when in fact I think it's a piece of whenever I listen to it by myself. How anybody can do that or use this statement as a defense in an argument that is purely subjective is beyond me. |
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| Topher Jones |
| I dont post often in threads like this....but I feel like some people have a misunderstanding of how electronic dance music is produced....Most producers write a track and sequence it in a way that will "go off" in a club.This type of music is produced to be played on loud systems. A lot of elements of songs are not heard or experienced while listened to on computer speakers. The sounds used and the way tracks are mastered is with the intent of it sounding the best it possible can on a huge system. Many tracks sound a lot different in a club than they do on regular speakers somewhere. I feel you truly get to "hear" a track once its played out live because that is the way the track is supposed to be heard. This is why the kick is almost the most important aspect of a song. If the kick doesn't sound good on a big system, it will ruin the track. I have had many experiences with songs where I thought a track was alright or not very good at all and then heard it out in a club and had a totally different perception of the song. Some songs sound better in a club than the radio, some the radio rather than a club, and other tracks sound great everywhere. I just feel it is important to remember that this music is electronic DANCE music and the intent of the music while being created it to get people to dance and have a great experience hearing the song out in a club. Just my two cents....;) ;) ;) ;) |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Topher Jones
I dont post often in threads like this....but I feel like some people have a misunderstanding of how electronic dance music is produced....Most producers write a track and sequence it in a way that will "go off" in a club.This type of music is produced to be played on loud systems. A lot of elements of songs are not heard or experienced while listened to on computer speakers. The sounds used and the way tracks are mastered is with the intent of it sounding the best it possible can on a huge system. Many tracks sound a lot different in a club than they do on regular speakers somewhere. I feel you truly get to "hear" a track once its played out live because that is the way the track is supposed to be heard. This is why the kick is almost the most important aspect of a song. If the kick doesn't sound good on a big system, it will ruin the track. I have had many experiences with songs where I thought a track was alright or not very good at all and then heard it out in a club and had a totally different perception of the song. Some songs sound better in a club than the radio, some the radio rather than a club, and other tracks sound great everywhere. I just feel it is important to remember that this music is electronic DANCE music and the intent of the music while being created it to get people to dance and have a great experience hearing the song out in a club. Just my two cents....;) ;) ;) ;) |
I think that's probably true of a lot of the producers who make tunes similar to the style you play/produce, but not even remotely close to true across the board for dance/electronic music. And I think there are a fair amount of producers out there who aren't really trying to "set the club off" either, but meh, it could just be my perspective on the scene is substantially different than yours.
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Topher Jones
I dont post often in threads like this....but I feel like some people have a misunderstanding of how electronic dance music is produced....Most producers write a track and sequence it in a way that will "go off" in a club.This type of music is produced to be played on loud systems. A lot of elements of songs are not heard or experienced while listened to on computer speakers. The sounds used and the way tracks are mastered is with the intent of it sounding the best it possible can on a huge system. Many tracks sound a lot different in a club than they do on regular speakers somewhere. I feel you truly get to "hear" a track once its played out live because that is the way the track is supposed to be heard. This is why the kick is almost the most important aspect of a song. If the kick doesn't sound good on a big system, it will ruin the track. I have had many experiences with songs where I thought a track was alright or not very good at all and then heard it out in a club and had a totally different perception of the song. Some songs sound better in a club than the radio, some the radio rather than a club, and other tracks sound great everywhere. I just feel it is important to remember that this music is electronic DANCE music and the intent of the music while being created it to get people to dance and have a great experience hearing the song out in a club. Just my two cents....;) ;) ;) ;) |
That's why EDM producers are called producers and not artists. They only care about the sound quality, not the actual content.
That's why nobody remembers the tracks 6 months after they've been released. |
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| Spirit5 |
I've had a similar argument or idea put forth in many of my threads in the past. Some have gotten laughed off, others have seemed to think I was on to something. Yes it is EDM, Yes you can dance to it, and Yes there are tracks that seem to be specifically tailoed for the dance floor. On the other hand, there are lots of tracks out there that are put under the "EDM" tag or simply labeled by people as EDM or dance, when in fact, there are many ways it can be experienced other than at a nightclub with sweaty people dancing.
In other words, there's other venues this music can be experienced, and there are countless tracks out there that would work very well in soundtracks for movies, video games (of course, done already) and used to create thematic or conceptual style mixed CDs (well almost thematic in scope i'de say, almost like Sasha's Involver..creating a piece of art through mixing and remixing/reproducing of tracks). So essentially, there's many things that can be done with this music, other than simply playing it out in clubs and experiencing it through them. |
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| shades_of_gray |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Just about anything works in a club, but only really excellent tracks work anywhere. |
Spot on.
As for Aftermath, i think its a brilliant tune because of the simplicity of it. It works for me in a club and listening to it at home. It will always get me nodding my head and tapping my feet. At the end of the day it all just boils down to personal prefrence! |
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