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It Just Isn't Trance Without The Acid... (pg. 2)
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| distant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
"Growing out of it" has never struck me as a very believable reason, because I can still go back and listen to those anthems and get the same satisfaction. |
Same here dude. For me, 303 isn't a necessity, but some form of rawness is definitely required. Oh, and a melody that goes full circle, rather than desperately trying to reach higher and higher. Man, I hate that. |
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| Whirloop |
| quote: | Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
Acid definitely ftw!
I must say you are quite succesul in your experiments :)
One of the few who can revive the quality acid sounds from the 90s in a modern production. Keep up the good work! |
Thanks Irish ;) |
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| mrmonkey |
| I don't really know what an acid influence sounds like? Samples anyone? |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mrmonkey
I don't really know what an acid influence sounds like? Samples anyone? |
SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The reason for that is that it's too hard to emulate that sound with software ;) |
No way man! It's easy to emulate the sound, you just have to really know which chords to use and which settings to emulate!
Though I will agree 100%: no software emulation sounds AS squelchy or quite AS acid as the original |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by mrmonkey
I don't really know what an acid influence sounds like? Samples anyone? |
Listen to some warp brothers tracks, they do a great job with their acid lines.
They had a track released on the blade sound track that had some of the sickest screaming acid riffs |
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| Whirloop |
I think acid lines should be more as support than lead element (like in the Blade track).
Anyone agrees? |
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| distant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Whirloop
I think acid lines should be more as support than lead element (like in the Blade track).
Anyone agrees? |
Works both ways. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Whirloop
I think acid lines should be more as support than lead element (like in the Blade track).
Anyone agrees? |
good goa/psy music with a nice acid stab going on is wicked. Back in the day when you didn't need 70'000 fx in the background, a good acid line was always brill |
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| Whirloop |
Yeah and don't forget those acid basslines :wtf:
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I'm talking about basslines like Infected Mushroom's Bust A Move or
X-Dream's Inter-Corporal Stimulator. Low bubbling bass stuff makes me drool :wtf: |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Whirloop
Yeah and don't forget those acid basslines :wtf:
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I'm talking about basslines like Infected Mushroom's Bust A Move or
X-Dream's Inter-Corporal Stimulator. Low bubbling bass stuff makes me drool :wtf: |
you should check out the bassline in Mandrake - Universal Soul (The Digital Blonde remix) |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
I find that the presence or absence of some squiggly acid-like element -- be it squelchy background or full-on 303 lead -- is the most common feature to trance I find great. This came to my attention after trying to figure out why I used to like a lot of epic trance, but find so much of today's just utter crap.
Carte Blanche? Squelchy supporting synth. Rollercoaster (Courtyard Mix)? Supporting acid line. Epic Monolith? Supporting acid line. Tenshi? Supporting acid line. Red Sun Rising (Lange Remix)? Supporting squelchy synth. And so on.
The exception (for me, at least) seems to be Balearic trance like Seven Cities and Saltwater. It appears tropical flair can replace acid. This is my theory as to why I really liked Tiesto's mix of Southern Sun, even though it lacked any acid-like textures.
"Growing out of it" has never struck me as a very believable reason, because I can still go back and listen to those anthems and get the same satisfaction. Around 2002, epic trance seemed to shed its shadows of acid, with only a few exceptions, and to me the quality seemed to drain out with it. In fact, the tracks I have seemed to "grow out of" have been the ones lacking acid-like sounds.
So, is this just my personal preference, or a more general rule? Is acid of some sort an essential bit to quality epic trance? |
Lordy lord. Each tune you mentioned is a personal fave of mine. And I never knew why.
But when you consider I have a lot of old skool history suddenly all becomes clear........
I've never thought anyone was so right on the money with something they'd said, internet or otherwise, ever in my life, as I do right now. |
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