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What do you think of while listening to Trance (pg. 3)
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquarian
Colors.. shapes.. nothing specific. |
Yup, agreed.
Depends on the situation/environment though. |
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| unripelemon |
| I think of how i could make the same melodies and sounds myself, then I go and do it. |
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| Rainborn |
| quote: | Originally posted by B_man
With the exception of Spirit5, you all seem vaguely unimaginative -- no offense...
To me, music is suppost to give a vision. Even if it is 'Dance' music, there should be an overriding vibe to draw emotions and atmosphere from. In turn, these packets of feeling draw one's soul to distant places that memory and vision are accompanied by.
FOR instance...
Certain "DRIVING" trance songs that are fast paced, bassline heavy, and melodically euphoric cast my visions to fast paced mayhem. This cataclysmic focus is sometimes on battlefields -- darting through deep nebula filled with danger at every turn, or a medival march into a fantastic world of ancient powers, or the eternal battle of two dualing sword-masters. Other focuses include flight of various forms, factories building form after form... even driving through all kinds of metropolis at unheard of speeds.
Ibiza trance is, of course, centered around the beachy, islandic, sunset-with-a-girl motif. However, sometimes I don't quite limit it to that. I've heard some tracks that make me think of travel, or distant places that are sweepingly ethereal, surreal, and empty of death.
Certain epic trance makes me feel like I'm in a story of a developing character. THe coolness and the whimsical reflectiveness of melodic descent sometimes take me to trials of sadness in my own life it they are minor-key or in the lives of other faces; real of implied. If it's more uplifting, I see storybook-like sets of heros mounted over cliffs towards the realized futures. Often times, I'll think about dark streets with happy city people... or dark streets with rain pondering the coldness upon one's drenched exterior.
I remember the song "Textures" by Robert Miles in his Dreamland CD... I had a very clear vision of a twilight city with red clouds, and dim figures of people scurrying about in countless skyscrapers. It was modern time, and sometimes the clouds descended into fog. It was a very clear picture I received.
Psy trance can take me to the surface of Jupiter, and back to the stupid-er lame planets that I have no comprehension of. Dark psy-trance, however, can really do wonders to my imagination if applied properly. Deep laboratories, secrets, organizations, underground societies, monsters, aliens-taking-up-arms, zombies, legions of "others" from the dark worlds, the hideous strength behind the darkened closets.... it's truly remarkable - BWAHAHAHAAA!
Gah... I haven't even touched music asides from trance... Oh well, I'm up too late again! |
Maybe you missed my post, or something. And that's just a QUICK undetailed example of two songs. First, I listen to the track itself, then later on I listen to the track AND see things (And I mean big things, like... I've even created long journeys, great worlds and , in my mind, while listening to music. Sashas "Ohmna" and "Arkham Asylum" for example.) |
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| kadomony |
depends on what tune.
most of the time nothing, but some tunes i definetly think of futuristic cities while others i think of current life with a certain emotion permeating through. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by B_man
With the exception of Spirit5, you all seem vaguely unimaginative -- no offense...
To me, music is suppost to give a vision. |
Unfortunately for you, your mind isn't universally representative. Not everyone has a visual mind. Hell, apparently some people can't even visualise scenes from reading a book.
Music is totally personal because it's something abstract to real life being percieved by people whose minds have been shaped by totally different lives. And it's impossible to say exactly how you respond to music in your mind, and it's bloody stupid to expect everyone to dream up little fantasy worlds behind their eyelids. Personally, I find it overly whimsical and corny when someone talks about how they dream up little worlds about music they listen to. Sure, I might get the vibe of a certain place or setting when I listen to music, but dreaming up some elaborate scenery... I think that's spending too much time in your own head, rather than paying attention to the music. What does a hi-hat's tss look like in your daydream? |
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| B_man |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Unfortunately for you, your mind isn't universally representative. Not everyone has a visual mind. Hell, apparently some people can't even visualise scenes from reading a book. |
Of course it isn't... how boring would this world be if everyone reacted the same to a song -- and if there were no critics towards literature. How tremendously boring.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Music is totally personal because it's something abstract to real life being percieved by people whose minds have been shaped by totally different lives. And it's impossible to say exactly how you respond to music in your mind, and it's bloody stupid to expect everyone to dream up little fantasy worlds behind their eyelids. |
Why would I advocate that. This thread is entitled "What do YOU think?". I suppose I was expecting more waves of responses other than "dancing girls", "breasts" (though those are good things), and various emotional plagues. Before I got into trance, I was very much into soundtrack music and certain symphonic electronica mediums. I was into story-telling music from the beginning, so it shaped who I am today. I have no problem with you thinking it bloody stupid because I'm fortunate enough to interact with someone different than I.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Personally, I find it overly whimsical and corny when someone talks about how they dream up little worlds about music they listen to. Sure, I might get the vibe of a certain place or setting when I listen to music, but dreaming up some elaborate scenery... I think that's spending too much time in your own head, rather than paying attention to the music. What does a hi-hat's tss look like in your daydream? |
Fair enough... that's partially why I wouldn't advise anyone to force this practice when it comes to music. Besides, wouldn't listening to a track again a few times lead one to ponder things in one's own mind (spending too much time in the mind from the get-go could be detrimental, yes)?
Granted, listening to the music comes first and foremost -- listening to music to crap out images does sound phenomincally stupid, I agree. That makes this whole discussion sound like a grade-school music appreciation class. Essay/creative writing is not the goal of music listening.
High-hats? Sorry, I rarely conjure up imagery from individual sounds. However, the first word that comes to mind when you say that is "jazz" -- specifically a very slow drummer. I have a strange memory of a high-hat buzzing drummer providing a slow tempo for a saxophonist that routinely played at a bar in Colorady. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Demoted
mothra. |
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| Spirit5 |
Like I said in my previous post, it's not the hi-hats, beats, bass or whatever. It's the melodies/harmonies that create the visually evocative part. Sure the other elements might enhance the melody or harmony, but they don't tend to have the same image-evoking qualities that melodies do. It's been like this for hundreds of years of instrumental (and vocal) music, as far as melodies being produced that convey a theme. Melodies are like unsung lyrics essentially, and it leaves the mind the ability to make up what the melody is conveying.
Sure it differs from person to person and composition to composition. A lot of composers have used this technique over the centuries, it's nothing new. It's just that melodic music period, has more image-evoking qualities vs. more rhythmic music, and because trance tends to be more melodic...it tends to convey themes and images.
To reach your own, some people just like music as music, other's use music for other means, and I am a person who likes to use music as an aid in formation of images for stories, poems, or just day-dreaming..hence why I like the more melodic trance out there, and lately have gotten into less dance-based melodic music. I guess I use it as a form of inspiration, it inspires me creatively and emotionally. It's a silly argument, some people like it that way, some don't. There are many ways to experience music. There is no "right" way to experience it.
I've actually been writing something for almost a year. It's nothing special really, still has a ways to go and a lot of revising. It's a mixture of a journal, short novel and script, with a little bit of poetry mixed in. A lot of the images and ideas have come to me while listening to melodic electronic music. Started off with trance, now it's mostly written with melodic ambient stuff like Amethystium. |
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| Spirit5 |
I think what B_man said is quite similar to what I vision, definitely a mixture of spiritual and ethereal, futuristic or sci-fi, midevil and fantasy and even some horror. It depends on the track. Three tracks in particular are image-evoking to me.
1. Kalafut & Fygle - 3579 KM
With the build up, I picture sailing on an ocean after midnight, with a faint bluish black color in the water and aura around everything. This is aided by a full moon shinning down upon the water. It's not so much the beat or the bass, although it enhances the effect, rather the build up melody that is furthered by the deep bassline. The melodic sound-effects give it a "watery" feel and the pads give it a night-time feel. Then as the breakdown comes, I can picture sailing into the sunrise and finally arriving on some bay at dawn, with many boats around, seemingly abadonded. There's this sense of serenity, and being lifted up by glowing child-like entities that dwell on this island. It's like we are traveling into the light.
2. Rio Addicts - Crossroads
The build up reminds me of driving around some darkened city at night, though illuminated by tall skyscrapers, with a beautiful woman by my side. Hardly anyone is around, it's just us. We are traveling all around, looking for some place calm near some water. During the breakdown, I visualize us slowing down. We find this place we were looking for, a side of the city near a lake. We just stare at the night-sky and the stars that are twikling in the sky and we kiss. It is definitely a romantic sounding track, so it conjures up images of romance.
3. Pinkbox Special - The French Don't Cry
This track conjures up images of a noir film, something mysterious with dark images of people, some dead, some alive, but it's unsure of who they are. People just stare at the camera, as the viewer is unaware of what comes next. The camera pans to a darkened ballroom as the people are dancing very slowly (this comes as the beat picks up) and then the place gradually turns into complete darkness as the elements are subtracted and the breakdown beings to surface.
Is it the camera or has the world shifted? I can picture faint images of people, in all sorts of activities yet not moving, standing still as if they are in an old black and white photo. They seem to shift in and out of the picture. It gives it a surreal quality...like they are shifting in and out of reality.
Then as the breakdown breaks down again into almost silence..and a "swoosh" sound comes in, I can picture a total eclipse of the sun, as the world turns into complete darkness outside. When the beat returns, I can picture everything coming back into the picture..yet moving at a faster rate of speed, like stop-motion photography or animation. Everything comes back from the beginning and coming to life again. |
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| xxxtasy |
Solid Session - Janeiro
Long bent uninhabited beach, with seagulls above and the warm sunset rays, walking in the beach with my dream girl. |
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