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sober V.S. high/drunk (pg. 3)
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TranscendentalP
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Originally posted by Jmanch
when I'm high, I tend to be more creative lol. But who cares what a track sounds like, when your at a club everyone is on X or high on something, whos gonna notice ur track sucks? lol


typical view of an ignorant person looking in at a party or rave. " oh man listen to that music they must all be on drugs!" yea... probably not.
asfdz
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Originally posted by System101
Does your production gets better if you are drunk or high (basically on something)?


No it just turns to .....:(
Must....stay....sober
girllovingtvibe
sober for me - although sometimes the best VOCAL ideas are when I have had a few ;)
KilldaDJ
i dont mind producing when ive had a few puffs of a joint or something.

however, if im totally munted on pills or pissed out of my skull then yeah making music is just out of the question. :gsmile:
thoughtlessjex
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Originally posted by DigiNut
James Brown maybe, but couldn't you have picked a better example than Kurt Cobain? :wtf: Yuck.

Jimi Hendrix is known for having played best when toking. But I believe he's considered the exception, not the rule.
Allied Nations
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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
Jimi Hendrix is known for having played best when toking. But I believe he's considered the exception, not the rule.



Tokin' ....heh... Jimi was on Acid during the creation and performance of most of the Experience.
DigiNut
Acid is a different beast altogether. I'll grant you that some of the most interesting/famous artists were heavily into the 'cid, and if you're the type of person who can handle producing music (or doing anything else of significance) while on a trip then you're bound to get some interesting results. Of course, most people can barely handle the trip itself, let alone do anything productive while they're having it.

The effects of that are totally different from booze or herb, though. Booze just removes any judgment or restraint whatsoever and you don't realize how ty something might sound. Dope puts you into a half-asleep state where pretty much anything sounds good, E obviously even more so. Acid, though, that completely warps a person's thought patterns and the results are really random and unusual. Sometimes the results of that can be good; although, again, acid is dangerous to screw around with - it's an 8-hour commitment without taking into account the time dilation, so it's not something I'd casually take before a production session just to see what it does.
DJ Shibby
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Acid is a different beast altogether. I'll grant you that some of the most interesting/famous artists were heavily into the 'cid, and if you're the type of person who can handle producing music (or doing anything else of significance) while on a trip then you're bound to get some interesting results. Of course, most people can barely handle the trip itself, let alone do anything productive while they're having it.

The effects of that are totally different from booze or herb, though. Booze just removes any judgment or restraint whatsoever and you don't realize how ty something might sound. Dope puts you into a half-asleep state where pretty much anything sounds good, E obviously even more so. Acid, though, that completely warps a person's thought patterns and the results are really random and unusual. Sometimes the results of that can be good; although, again, acid is dangerous to screw around with - it's an 8-hour commitment without taking into account the time dilation, so it's not something I'd casually take before a production session just to see what it does.


Yeah man.

I wrote a track once over a 3 week period where I did stages of sober, cannabis induced, tina induced, absinthe induced, and LSD induced compositioning/editing. The hihats are insane in the track, and it just has this weird monstrous energy that kind of washes over the listener...

The results can be very interesting!
Allied Nations
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Originally posted by DigiNut

The effects of that are totally different from booze or herb, though. Booze just removes any judgment or restraint whatsoever and you don't realize how ty something might sound. Dope puts you into a half-asleep state where pretty much anything sounds good, E obviously even more so.



I agree and respect a lot of what you post, but you can only speak for yourself here.
DigiNut
I can speak for myself and some people whom I've observed, but you're right, I can't speak for everyone.

I find the weed debate in particular to be irritating at times because I hear the same arguments about driving. Some people really, truly believe that they are better drivers baked, and I've seen them baked and I know they're terrible (it's gotten to the point where I'm often able to point out the stoned drivers on the road because I've seen so many of them now).

So, maybe some people really do produce better stoned. I don't know - it's possible. What I do know is that there are several people who insist that they do, but actually don't. That's what I'm basing my opinion on, and maybe there are exceptional cases I'm unaware of or maybe my "sample" is abnormal.

I don't speak for everyone, I speak for a general observable trend.

B_man
Granted I don't get out much... but this thread is very disturbing.
Allied Nations
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I can speak for myself and some people whom I've observed, but you're right, I can't speak for everyone.

I find the weed debate in particular to be irritating at times because I hear the same arguments about driving. Some people really, truly believe that they are better drivers baked, and I've seen them baked and I know they're terrible (it's gotten to the point where I'm often able to point out the stoned drivers on the road because I've seen so many of them now).

So, maybe some people really do produce better stoned. I don't know - it's possible. What I do know is that there are several people who insist that they do, but actually don't. That's what I'm basing my opinion on, and maybe there are exceptional cases I'm unaware of or maybe my "sample" is abnormal.

I don't speak for everyone, I speak for a general observable trend.



I speak for quite a few DJs/Producers who will remain nameless and have multiple records released on big labels. I don't think any of us have any proper statistics, which makes both of our points moot.

One needs to produce how they feel comfortable producing and if what they're doing is solid, it will most likely be recognized; regardless of their state of mind during it's conception.
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