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Ableton Live 6... (pg. 3)
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| BOOsTER |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnomalyConcept
All I've found is the track volume (in the mixer module) as the best fit for channel fader, and perhaps the volume/track display slider for gain. Are there better controls for these? |
use channel the volume slider...and if you need an easier way to handle the gain just put "Utility" from live plugins on the track...that's what I do, so I can control it easier with midi. :) |
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| Airbase |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mortyman
I'm in the same boat as resonate.
I just got this program and I really wanna learn how to mix full sets with it because I'm travelling and don't have access to turntables or mixers!
I'm finding it very difficult to figre all this out, it would be so much easier if I had someone to show me step by step what everything is and does.
I've started to read through the user manual, and it took me a good hour (almost) just to get through the first 20 pages of 387! It's kinda frustrating, and threads like this are here to help.
I still haven't figured out how this whole warpingt hing works. Pretty much EVERY time I select a track and after it loads, it plays at a much MUCH SLOWER bpm than if I play it through winamp. Basically, my first step is trying to figure out why these tracks have predetermined warping markers, and why they play at such a slow speed when I open them?? |
Jesus...
View -> Lessons
VOILA! step by step on how-to everything.
// Jezper |
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| Airbase |
| quote: | Originally posted by BOOsTER
use channel the volume slider...and if you need an easier way to handle the gain just put "Utility" from live plugins on the track...that's what I do, so I can control it easier with midi. :) |
Or, use the Ableton Cross fader. |
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| sleepydragon |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It doesn't really "beatmatch for you." You still have to make sure your tracks are in sync and correctly warped. The difference is that you get to do this before you play a set.
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so its pre done then lol you dont have to beatmatch at a gig i think thats the point people are making. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Airbase
Or, use the Ableton Cross fader. |
Eww, people still use crossfaders? |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
Eww, people still use crossfaders? |
some people use the crossfader for certain purposes in ableton. for example, there's a pic of sasha's ableton setup and he has the crossfader set to fade into a return channel with whatever set of effects he uses so he can use it essentially as a dry/wet.
| quote: | | so its pre done then lol you dont have to beatmatch at a gig i think thats the point people are making. |
to clarify, this is really about peoples perceptions. anyone with half a brain can beatmatch perfectly. once you hit this plateau it becomes more about mixing style than ability to beatmatch. pvd can beatmatch, tiesto, max graham, all the big names as WELL as all the unknowns out there. the point is anyone can beatmatch. and now the comptuer can. so because ableton takes care of this instantly it offers more freedom in terms of mixing style. the idea is that instead of spending 30 seconds or whatever beatmatching tracks on stage and THEN doing what you need to do to make a creative solid mix, you "beatmatch" (ie warp) everything beforehand and then do what you would normally do with your free time.
i dont see how its a question of cheating or "not having to beatmatch" or whatever since everyone can do this anyways. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
some people use the crossfader for certain purposes in ableton. for example, there's a pic of sasha's ableton setup and he has the crossfader set to fade into a return channel with whatever set of effects he uses so he can use it essentially as a dry/wet.
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Yes, I realize that. I do the same thing myself. I'm just not really into the use of the crossfader for mixing purposes, that's all. |
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| sleepydragon |
| quote: | Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
the idea is that instead of spending 30 seconds or whatever beatmatching tracks on stage and THEN doing what you need to do to make a creative solid mix, you "beatmatch" (ie warp) everything beforehand and then do what you would normally do with your free time.
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yeah but alot of djs dont do much in there free time how many djs out there do more than just beatmatching and mixing? ableton could quite easily be used for the wrong reasons and you will get people using it for a gig and just standing there doing nothing most of the time. |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
yeah but alot of djs dont do much in there free time how many djs out there do more than just beatmatching and mixing? ableton could quite easily be used for the wrong reasons and you will get people using it for a gig and just standing there doing nothing most of the time. |
exactly. which is why the majority of the ALDJ community shuns people who would just go up there and just mix tracks like they would on a cdj and have it do the beatmatching for them. i hate that |
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| Prism |
I'm a so called an ALDJ after I switched from a pair of CDJs to Xone:3D and just a laptop I never looked back. A bad example of an ALDJ would be someone who fades tracks back and forth without any creativity. Many would argue with me but I am not afraid to say that I can do much more with my 3D and laptop than with a pair of CDJs. Like throwing loops, acapellas PvD would be a great example, may be even loading up VSTs and playing along with various sequences.
It's a lot of preparation you sort of do all the beat matching in advance by warping everything correctly and then you do the mixing live. Much respect to you SPAWN you know what Ableton is about. |
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| Clovis |
| Its also nice having all your track gain's adjusted before hand so you can just mix without worrying much about individual track volume levels :) |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
yeah but alot of djs dont do much in there free time how many djs out there do more than just beatmatching and mixing? ableton could quite easily be used for the wrong reasons and you will get people using it for a gig and just standing there doing nothing most of the time. |
Yeah but whats the big difference between that and someone who makes ty, 30 second transitions on CDJs and generally doesnt put much work into the mixing?
Yeah, none really. DJs are DJs and good DJs are good DJs, regardless of how they're spitting out their music. |
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