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Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You've used it three times in this thread so far, which is three times more than Arbiter has. :p


lol touche
Arbiter
quote:
Originally posted by Dopey
So being genuine and acting are coexistent in your world?


It depends entirely on the sense in which the word is being used.

For example:

"He convinced me that he was a doctor, but he was just acting."

In this case, it's obviously not compatible.

Contrast with this:

"He was acting angry."

In this case, the person being described may have been genuinely angry - what is being expressed is that his behavior was consistent with the general notion of how an angry person behaves. Whether or not he was actually angry is left ambiguous and may be unknown to the speaker.
Sushipunk
I predict an argument over semantics.

Wait...
Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
It depends entirely on the sense in which the word is being used.

For example:

"He convinced me that he was a doctor, but he was just acting."

In this case, it's obviously not compatible.

Contrast with this:

"He was acting angry."

In this case, the person being described may have been genuinely angry - what is being expressed is that his behavior was consistent with the general notion of how an angry person behaves. Whether or not he was actually angry is left ambiguous and may be unknown to the speaker.


So acting has more than one definition? do like, other words have multiple definitions too?

You used the specific term "over-acting" ... how do you "over-act" exactly if you're acting angry?
Halcyon+On+On
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Arbiter
quote:
Originally posted by Dopey
You used the specific term "over-acting" ... how do you "over-act" exactly if you're acting angry?


The same way you would regardless of the sense in which the word "acting" is being used: by exhibiting behavior that is exaggerated compared with what is expected by the observer. This tends to have the effect of making it seem more like the deceptive type of act - but the fact that it gives that impression doesn't necessarily mean that the impression is true, it could just be that the person acting angry tends to behave a little differently than most people do when they are genuinely angry.
CranberryJuice
quote:
Originally posted by Caela
oh man...this is a can of worms.

i know better than to start.

damn lets just say it ing sucks getting your heart broken.

but that's just growing up...right?


it's a part of growing up and experiences
but is it necessary to have all the pain and sufferring involved?

i guess it makes us stronger


;)
Halcyon+On+On
quote:
Originally posted by CranberryJuice
i guess it makes us stronger


That's what people say after their relationship. When they are in that relationship however, they have no desire to become stronger. I wonder why that is...

Possibly because it's not true? Perhaps it is just how people justify their feelings so that they can still feel a sense of pride and maintain a healthy level of self-esteem. At least until they find somebody else again and become weak once more.
Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
The same way you would regardless of the sense in which the word "acting" is being used: by exhibiting behavior that is exaggerated compared with what is expected by the observer. This tends to have the effect of making it seem more like the deceptive type of act - but the fact that it gives that impression doesn't necessarily mean that the impression is true, it could just be that the person acting angry tends to behave a little differently than most people do when they are genuinely angry.


running for cover eh?

"the person acting angry tends to behave a little differently than most people do when they are genuinely angry"

if you act angry, you act angry. you cannot over-act angry. you are basing the "over-action" (or "exaggeration" now that you are backpedaling) on someone else's standard of that act.

at this point you have to separate the two forms of acting. acting on true emotion ie. "her emotional state made her act erratic"

and acting as performance ie. "the part of the play where she was acting as though she was angry was not convincing in the least"

since in your post you said "The source of your disgust is really that they are over-acting, and as a result the performance is not convincing enough..." you are implying the performance definition

just because the genuine standard of the observer does not match the performance they are seeing, does not mean that what they are seeing is in fact a performance. that would be a huge assumption since nobody in the world knows exactly what another is thinking at a given time.
Dopey
anyways im tired man, maybe I misunderstood your first post, I will re-read it tomorrow. But you should be more specific in terms of true emotion and performance.

Sushipunk
quote:
Originally posted by Dopey
running for cover eh?

"the person acting angry tends to behave a little differently than most people do when they are genuinely angry"

if you act angry, you act angry. you cannot over-act angry. you are basing the "over-action" (or "exaggeration" now that you are backpedaling) on someone else's standard of that act.

at this point you have to separate the two forms of acting. acting on true emotion ie. "her emotional state made her act erratic"

and acting as performance ie. "the part of the play where she was acting as though she was angry was not convincing in the least"

since in your post you said "The source of your disgust is really that they are over-acting, and as a result the performance is not convincing enough..." you are implying the performance definition

just because the genuine standard of the observer does not match the performance they are seeing, does not mean that what they are seeing is in fact a performance. that would be a huge assumption since nobody in the world knows exactly what another is thinking at a given time.


You seem angry.
Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
You seem angry.


i'm not :) sleepy though
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