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Moscow bans 'satanic' gay parade
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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Moscow bans 'satanic' gay parade
Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov has said he will never allow a gay rights parade in the Russian capital.
Speaking to reporters, Mr Luzhkov described such events as "satanic".
Moscow banned a gay march in 2006, citing the threat of violence. People who ignored the ban were beaten up by counter-demonstrators and arrested.
Gay activists say the ban breaches their fundamental human rights. They say they intend to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.
"Last year, Moscow came under unprecedented pressure to sanction the gay parade, which cannot be called anything other than satanic," Mr Luzhkov said.
"We did not let the parade take place then, and we are not going to allow it in the future," he said.
The mayor also blamed groups which he said were receiving grants from the West for spreading what he dismissively referred to as "this kind of enlightenment" in Russia.
He thanked the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Alexy II, for supporting him in banning a gay march last year.
Defiant
Some people who took part in the unauthorised event were beaten up by right-wing counter-demonstrators or detained by police.
But the parade's organisers say they plan to hold the event in May and will appeal against the ban in the Strasbourg court.
"Trying to silence us, the Russian authorities denied us one of the fundamental human rights. The European justice will have the last say in this case," Nikolai Alexeyev, one of the parade organisers, said in a statement.
Gay activists in Russia are divided over whether the march should be held, the BBC's James Rodgers in Moscow says.
Some suggest that holding the parade at all will simply provoke a backlash from their opponents, our correspondent says. |
Moscow bans 'satanic' gay parade
I never liked that guy. He is very conservative, full of USSR bull. Why people in Moscow like him so much? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
Why people in Moscow like him so much? |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
He is very conservative, full of USSR bull. |
Isn't it what people from Petersburg say about Muscovites in general? :p |
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| star-traveller |
| I don't have any idea. |
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| Dopey |
| a noble first step towards separation of church and state |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
a noble first step towards separation of church and state |
Ummmm ? Where the hell do you get that idea from? In that article, BOTH the government and Church support the same dam thing. Church and state in Russia are comingled. I remember during Soviet era prominent priests and religious leaders were also KGB agents, and since today there are a lot of former communists in power in Russia, I doubt things have changed in Church either.
Yuri Luzhkov is a big idiot, I always disliked him. He and his wife have a bunch of shady businesses in Moscow controlling real state. They jack up the prices of property and earn millions of dollars each month. Yuri Luzhkov's wife is one of the richest women from an article few months ago I read in Forbes.
Since Soviet Union's collapse, Russia only then began to ponder on democratic issues. It took West how many years to accept homosexuality? Well, dont expect Russia to accept it in their country soon, because it will have to wait. There are many people, ordinary Russians, who are against homosexuality. No need for more flames right now. Russia has other serious matters that need attention. |
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| metalgearsolid |
Just an interesting fact: Peter the Great was gay.
p.s. why must you always compare Russia to the west? I thought Russians were different, etc etc? |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Just an interesting fact: Peter the Great was gay.
p.s. why must you always compare Russia to the west? I thought Russians were different, etc etc? |
Russians are human beings, just like you and me. We're not animals if thats what you're implying. Or unless you have racist implications in your post, judging my your countless other terrible hate speeches that deserve a ban. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Russians are human beings, just like you and me. We're not animals if thats what you're implying. Or unless you have racist implications in your post, judging my your countless other terrible hate speeches that deserve a ban. |
I love human beings. I see every body as a human being regardless of sex, color, religion or sexual prefrences. If I get under your skin than that just means your too sensitive. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
I love human beings. I see every body as a human being regardless of sex, color, religion or sexual prefrences. If I get under your skin than that just means your too sensitive. |
Am I REALLY too sensitive when you say something like
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Hey how was ing a cat, did you give it to him real good? Cause you know I heard Russian women only have sex with foreign males. So that leaves Russian males needing to have sex with house pets, cause the women don't want them. |
Well, well ... I am too emotional, I guess. Quotes like the one above is never going to cause any sort of physical or verbal altercations! :rolleyes: |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Ummmm ? Where the hell do you get that idea from? In that article, BOTH the government and Church support the same dam thing. Church and state in Russia are comingled. I remember during Soviet era prominent priests and religious leaders were also KGB agents, and since today there are a lot of former communists in power in Russia, I doubt things have changed in Church either.
Yuri Luzhkov is a big idiot, I always disliked him. He and his wife have a bunch of shady businesses in Moscow controlling real state. They jack up the prices of property and earn millions of dollars each month. Yuri Luzhkov's wife is one of the richest women from an article few months ago I read in Forbes.
Since Soviet Union's collapse, Russia only then began to ponder on democratic issues. It took West how many years to accept homosexuality? Well, dont expect Russia to accept it in their country soon, because it will have to wait. There are many people, ordinary Russians, who are against homosexuality. No need for more flames right now. Russia has other serious matters that need attention. |
how does anyone miss the sarcasm in my post, whatever is up your ass, remove it quick man |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
how does anyone miss the sarcasm in my post, whatever is up your ass, remove it quick man |
P.S. It would be a wise idea to add a sarcastic smiley to your posts if you're sarcastic next time, Beavis! I am not a good mind reader! |
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| Sunsnail |
| I caught it quite easily. :conf: |
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