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| the_gamemaster |
Do you guys have any tips on making the start and the ends( particularly the ends) of a set more interesting?
Theres got to be a better way than just letting the track play out, or fading out. |
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| KilldaDJ |
have some sort of interesting intro, like a speech or something?
ending wise i just pick a tune which summarises the whole set, either a real party piece or something much more deeper.. |
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| the_gamemaster |
| no i mean more like effects rather than just letting the entire song play out, as there is just the bassline at the end of every track, which is boring |
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| BOOsTER |
| if you mix harmonically you can mix out of the first track earlier... |
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| theognis1002 |
slide the pitch down
sounds cool lol
scratch out is cool too |
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| DjWoody |
Using a Pioneer DJM600, DJM800 or DJM3000 I like to do this.
1.- Start taking the bass out little by little.
2.- at the same time, slowly apply a 1/4 beat echo to the track. About the same speed you're taking the bass out.
3.- Keep tweeking the bass and the echo at the same time, but opposite. On other words, if you take bass out, add echo. If you add echo, take bass out. Don't add bass and add echo at the same time. If you do it quickly too, it sounds cool.
4.- Start fading the song at the same time you doing all this.
If you do it correctly, it will sound cool. It may take you some practice, but trust me. It's worth it. That is another way I do build ups too. ;)
ooops... I think I just shared one of my favorite tricks. Hehehe Just master it! |
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| TwistedDUO |
Really depends on how the previous set is going. I always try to start with a "signature" track or into. Something that's recongnizable to be "my style". If you produce you're own music, this is a great place to throw it out there (providing your track mixes well the last). Since I play out psytrance and often in crossover settings (as in the dj before me doesn't play psy), I bust out with a remix of something familar. It kinda builds the bridge between what was played and what is to come.
On using intros, make sure you can harmonically blend it well. There's nothing more pretentious than a dj who lets the previous track just die and throws on his intro (*ahem, Oaken*). It's like saying, "Hey everyone. I'm the dj that ISN'T playing what you just heard. So stop what you're doing and pay attention to ME (not that other guy)." Also, avoid using intros with a version of your name in it. You know what I'm talking about. It's that banter that fills space in some vocodor or filtered voice stating that Elvis has risen again and in the form you, the dj. Get over yourself and just play the damn records, okay.
Endings are tricky. Since many times you may be asked to play one or two more tracks. It's best to lead into the other dj's set. Knowing who and what's coming up after your set helps alot. Remember, a good dj is one that they (the listeners) don't know is mixing. Nothing better than coming off the stage and having people just realize that your set ended a half hour ago. You did your job well.
Some people say go out on a low note, that playing a kicker right before you leave is like setting up the next guy for your glory. I find this again to be egotistically pretentious. I like to leave on a high note. I play something totally rocking that has them bouncing on their feet. For those noticing, it leaves them wanting more from you (and thus showing up to your next gigs). For the upcoming dj, you set the energy to a level he/she must match. |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
Using a Pioneer DJM600, DJM800 or DJM3000 I like to do this.
1.- Start taking the bass out little by little.
2.- at the same time, slowly apply a 1/4 beat echo to the track. About the same speed you're taking the bass out.
3.- Keep tweeking the bass and the echo at the same time, but opposite. On other words, if you take bass out, add echo. If you add echo, take bass out. Don't add bass and add echo at the same time. If you do it quickly too, it sounds cool.
4.- Start fading the song at the same time you doing all this.
If you do it correctly, it will sound cool. It may take you some practice, but trust me. It's worth it. That is another way I do build ups too. ;)
ooops... I think I just shared one of my favorite tricks. Hehehe Just master it! |
using pretty much the same method, try flicking the phono/line switch in time with your echo, turning on the echo just as you're flicking the switch |
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| idoru |
It all depends on what my last track is. Sometimes the track has it's own sort of outro, so I'll let that play. If it doesn't, then I may just let the track play out; sometimes I'll let it play out and finish, sometimes the DJ on after me will want to mix out of it.
If it has a straight beat and I have an EFX I will often end while incorporating the echo effect one way or another. |
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| Zild |
| Personally I don't enjoy DJs who use intros and outros. To me they feel very gimmicky. I'd rather the intro just be the beginning of a good song and the ending be the end of a great song. I'll sit there and listen but I'm really thinking, 'start the damn music already'. |
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| Stu Cox |
I normally start a set by do quite a sharp mix out of the previous tune into a loop of some kind, ideally sounding quite different but not too different from what was being played before - that way it makes it clear that a new DJ's on and keeps the flow going.
I've made quite a few loops that work well at the start of a set as a ground to build up from, either adding the first 'proper' track over the top or mixing out of the loop into something else, sometimes just layering up some loops and moving between them, adding in samples & fx etc before dropping into the first big track.
For ending a set if I'm on last I just apply a few fx and cut the track (normally a short deck-stop), or mix into a loop and fade it out.
For trance demos I like to use some sort of intro, again sometimes by layering a series of beatless loops before dropping into the first track, sometimes I'll make one specially or sometimes I'll just use a track with an interesting intro, where as for a techno demo I like to do something a bit light-hearted (like a kid reciting the alphabet in my "A State Of Techno" demo)... then I'll normally finish a demo in a pretty similar way to a closing a set in a club. |
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| T-Soma |
| Who cares how you start or end your set, you just have to make sure you play the Joonas Hahmo mix of David West's Suffering Island somewhere in the middle of it! |
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