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Drinking laws in America (pg. 2)
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In Holland the drinking age is 16+(that's for beer and other drinks without much alcohol), liquor is 18+ (strong stuff:))
I like the drinking age in Holland, the bars don't make a hassle about offering drinks, I think you can get a beer when you are 12 years old over here. I drank my first beer when I was 8 or 9,I got it from my dad.
The problem in the US is that lots of kids want to drink, and now they do it illegaly, and that is all because it is 21+, that is way too old, you can drive when you are 16, but you can't drink a beer because they don't have the responsibility for that. Driving takes much more responsibility then drinking, I can tell you that
They should lower the age to 18+ at first, or maybe 19+ or 20+ and lower that in a reasonable amount of time |
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| Sir. Lunchalot |
| I was in the US in 1994 when I just turned 18 and we couldn`t drink or go clubbing so we went to some private parties with some american friends of ours. The strange thing was, that everyone was leaving as soon as there was no more alcohol. Once we just arrived at a party and someone said "No more beer, guys!" and our american friends said: "Let`s leave.". So we actually went to a party and left before we really entered because there was no beer....very strange... |
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| LightForce |
Well about that drinking stuff over there, I can't really live like that :D. And as the same as blik here in the Netherlands its to easy to get a drink. In some clubs and bars you see 12 year old boys and girls drinking beer, and the latest stuff they drink is the breezer .
But our country is not weird with alcohol, lets take the soft-drug rule over here. Its in legal (thats nice :D to me)! But the danger of it, that the younger people can get it 2. And thats not nice to see, that younger people getting high at the age of 14 , 15. |
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| Eugene |
The way I look at it, the American citizens here can petition their government. Why not? If there's a public outcry, they'll change the laws. All they need is a little "push" to change the legislation.
Remember that Jefferson quote that Trance-X posted? "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
I think this can be a powerful argument :D |
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| G K Murray |
The thing which i find most amusing is:
You're considered to an ADULT, but you can't DRINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me!! But you can drive a car, which is a far more responsible thing to do than go out and drink, when you think cars can be lethal weaponds driven by the wrong person.
Hehe, in the UK, when you go out UNDER AGE, it's like 15,16, 17, In the US it mus be like 18,19,20, we're in ANIMALS by then!! |
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| Eugene |
By the way, I should mention that the "21-only" law in America is a common misconception.
The law says that you can't BUY alcohol if you're under 21. As for consuming alcohol, according to the law, you CAN drink, if you're under 21, in the following situations:
- at "a private club or establishment"
- in the presence of a parent in the immediate home
- during religious ceremonies.
Trust me, I did a lot of research on this :)
The law is pretty strict but not as strict as everybody here seems to think, at least in my state (Maryland). |
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| verminator |
@ 16 years
- you are allowed to have sex legally with persons from 16 years ++
@ 18 years
- you will be called into the army if you are boy
- you are allowed to buy beer (and other types of alcohol except liquor (12%+++)
- you are alloed to buy cigaretts (and other tobacco products)
- you are allowed to enter clubs which only sell beer
- you can get the drivers lisence
- you are allowed to go to mostly all kind of partys/arrangemets - as they always sell beer, and therefor the age limit is 18
@ 20 years
- you are allowed to buy liquor
- you can get the drivers lisence for bikes (yamahaa stuff etc, heavy weigthers as we call them here)
- you are allowed to enter clubs which sell liquor
- you are allowed to enter partys/arrangements which sell liquor
that's all i can think of atm
so as you can see, norway is pretty lame :)
but even though the restrictions are f00ked, all ppl start to drink at the age of 12-14 and start to go out on clubs with fake id-s at the age og 16-17.
i think there are only 2 countries (denmark & finĝland) in europe where ppl ,within the age of 12-20 years or something like that, are drinking more alcohol than us.
and at last, i will say that its f*cking expensive here..
£4-£5 for beer when you go out on clubs
£5-£6 for a 20-pack of cigaretts
blah
norway suxx on prices
greetz! |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by verminator
@ 16 years
- you are allowed to have sex legally with persons from 16 years ++
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Verminator, do they show nudity on public TV in Scandinavia?
Here in the US, this is strictly prohibited (although cable channels, which you have to pay for, DO show nudity sometimes.)
Also, how about magazines, newspapers, or journals?
In the USA everything is censored!!!! :eek: |
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| big dave |
| well in scotland me and most ppl were drinkin at 13. now its 18 there no point cuz it legal lol! but hey im in the pub most days now instead of street corners:p |
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| evil_bastard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
By the way, I should mention that the "21-only" law in America is a common misconception.
The law says that you can't BUY alcohol if you're under 21. As for consuming alcohol, according to the law, you CAN drink, if you're under 21, in the following situations:
- at "a private club or establishment"
- in the presence of a parent in the immediate home
- during religious ceremonies.
Trust me, I did a lot of research on this :)
The law is pretty strict but not as strict as everybody here seems to think, at least in my state (Maryland). |
You only have to be 5 in the UK to do those things. |
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| evil_bastard |
| quote: | Originally posted by LightForce
Well about that drinking stuff over there, I can't really live like that :D. And as the same as blik here in the Netherlands its to easy to get a drink. In some clubs and bars you see 12 year old boys and girls drinking beer, and the latest stuff they drink is the breezer .
But our country is not weird with alcohol, lets take the soft-drug rule over here. Its in legal (thats nice :D to me)! But the danger of it, that the younger people can get it 2. And thats not nice to see, that younger people getting high at the age of 14 , 15. |
Yeah but I knew kids who regularly smoked dope when I was 9/10 years old, and it's illegal here.
The problem with making Cannabis illegal is that you create a "mystique". People (mostly kids) suddenly become fascinated in it because it's illegal. Also, when you're that age, it makes it seem more "cool" if there's a chance of getting caught for doing it.
The disadvantage of legalising it is that people have been told for decades that this drug is evil, which the government now admits is mostly bollocks. That weakens the governments argument when they try to educate people about drugs that are harmful like Cocaine. Peopple just say "well that's what you said about cannabis, and then you said that was OK". This creates a major problem.
It's a difficult one... |
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| G K Murray |
MM, the pros and cons a legalising CANABIS.
If canabis was made legal then this would act as a 'Stepping Stone' for the young and week minded. I.E ppl would go on to take HARDER DRUGS.
Canabis is a MEDICINE, simple as that!!! Prooved for years!! |
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