Even if US goes and invades Iraq atleast they have Americans protesting war and fighting for Iraqies.
But in case of Israel I have seen they never show any remorse or any feeling towards the loss of life, infrastructure, jobs, businesses and civilisations they cause in Palestine, or their other neighbours, or for any other country on this planet other than their own for christ's sake.
They always ruthlessly dominate and make the whole nation a prison, neither do they have or show any remorse for the utter destruction they caused in Lebanon over nothing (or should I say 2 Israeli soilders).
I have never seen any nation so patience and cold towards death of its neighbour or people outside its own community.
What you guys think? Has the right time came for world to disown Israel now finally and stop this dictatorship? Or should we continue death and destruction in the name of Jews killed in past and sympathy for landless for next 50 years.
Lira
Purple, what are you talking about!? Have you ever seen a product made in Israel on the shelves so you could choose not to buy it? :p
Fir3start3r
Well, they did ban zionist mustard...:nervous:
Dopey
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Originally posted by Purple
Even if US goes and invades Iraq atleast they have Americans protesting war and fighting for Iraqies.
But in case of Israel I have seen they never show any remorse or any feeling towards the loss of life, infrastructure, jobs, businesses and civilisations they cause in Palestine, or their other neighbours, or for any other country on this planet other than their own for christ's sake.
They always ruthlessly dominate and make the whole nation a prison, neither do they have or show any remorse for the utter destruction they caused in Lebanon over nothing (or should I say 2 Israeli soilders).
I have never seen any nation so patience and cold towards death of its neighbour or people outside its own community.
What you guys think? Has the right time came for world to disown Israel now finally and stop this dictatorship? Or should we continue death and destruction in the name of Jews killed in past and sympathy for landless for next 50 years.
cry me a river
LazFX
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Well, they did ban zionist mustard...:nervous:
But still have Hamas Hummus?? ha ha ah
Lilith
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Lilith
Right on cue Lilth lol! :haha:
Lilith
If I had the time I'd try and make Terrorists in Peanut butter brand, but I really should actually do some work... nothing worse than being awake at 8am on a Saturday :(
Probably should make some sort of half-hearted effort to drag this back on topic. But in reality, the international pressure on Israel is quite minimal as it is on all the other surrounding counties in the area, which for all their pro-con's and reasons to argue or shoot people in Israel, really do need to clean up their acts.
Applying pressure to de-militarise or at least soften the Israeli presence will only cause a shift of power in the region and given the generations of ingrained hatred, their neighbours aren't likely to forgive them any slights and remain peaceful for very long.
And who's going to do this?
The US?
Current effort at policing doesn't do well as it is.
Russia?
hah!
China?
Even more laughable.
And what everyone else is forgetting, the international community makes way too much money out of the middle east to ever consider pressuring people. They like selling oil, they like buying armaments, the human cost is secondary to the dollar and as a result, there will be no change in the middle east for quite some time. You don't have to like it but it's just a simple fact which you should accept as part of the bigger picture problem if you're going to argue on it.
LazFX
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Originally posted by Lilith
Applying pressure to de-militarise or at least soften the Israeli presence will only cause a shift of power in the region and given the generations of ingrained hatred, their neighbours aren't likely to forgive them any slights and remain peaceful for very long.
Yeah, just look at the b.s thats going on at Iraq.....
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Lilith
If I had the time I'd try and make Terrorists in Peanut butter brand, but I really should actually do some work... nothing worse than being awake at 8am on a Saturday :(
Probably should make some sort of half-hearted effort to drag this back on topic. But in reality, the international pressure on Israel is quite minimal as it is on all the other surrounding counties in the area, which for all their pro-con's and reasons to argue or shoot people in Israel, really do need to clean up their acts.
Applying pressure to de-militarise or at least soften the Israeli presence will only cause a shift of power in the region and given the generations of ingrained hatred, their neighbours aren't likely to forgive them any slights and remain peaceful for very long.
Kind of like emmanciplation of black salves? They certainly didn't go on a rampage killing white people. Projecting your fears and insecurities on others has little relevance or impact on their actions and intentions in the real world.
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Purple
Even if US goes and invades Iraq atleast they have Americans protesting war and fighting for Iraqies.
But in case of Israel I have seen they never show any remorse or any feeling towards the loss of life
That's not true, there's plenty of decent Israelis out there too. They might not be anywhere near a majority, but are they ever in any group? A good deal of the literature and analysis I've read that's highly critical of the state of Israel and it's persistant coersion via agression, state sponsored terrorism, and it's utter disregard for fundamental human rights and international law are Jewish (although I must admit not often Israeli). One of the documentaries I posted in the Palestine/Israel thread, The Iron Wall, actually had a lot of Israelis in it. I've also read and heard about IDF soldiers who refuse to serve in the occupied territories, and you have to commend them for their courage and integrity. But yeah, there's a lot less animosity and far more tolerance in the US.
Shakka
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Kind of like emmanciplation of black salves? They certainly didn't go on a rampage killing white people. Projecting your fears and insecurities on others has little relevance or impact on their actions and intentions in the real world.
Yet to this day we hear about reparations due to people who are generations removed from slavery.
