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Phrasing*? (pg. 3)
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| Andryuha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
it's not really about knowing your tracks as it's about knowing how music is structured
4, learn it, live it, love it
after a lot of practice and listening to the music you learn to anticipate where things will happen and how they'll likely happen
it will almost become second nature and you do it without thinking about it |
I just want to make sure, I'm understanding this correctly. Once you hear the end of a phrase, you need to count off 4, 16 or 32 beats, right? Is that the point where you drop the cued track? |
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| theognis1002 |
ha
ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown
everything matches up from there....
u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?!
just tell you elitists!! |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Andryuha
I just want to make sure, I'm understanding this correctly. Once you hear the end of a phrase, you need to count off 4, 16 or 32 beats, right? Is that the point where you drop the cued track? |
Listen to a track. Don't mix it, just listen.
When you hear a big crash, start counting the beats. At 16 or 32 you'll hear the music change, either another big crash or something added/lost or the music will start a new loop. That is one phrase.
@theognis, don't be a twit. Theres no secrets, no hiding, no elitism. You gotta work out how to mix by yourself like everyone else did. |
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| Andryuha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Listen to a track. Don't mix it, just listen.
When you hear a big crash, start counting the beats. At 16 or 32 you'll hear the music change, either another big crash or something added/lost or the music will start a new loop. That is one phrase.
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That's what I thought |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by theognis1002
ha
ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown
everything matches up from there....
u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?!
just tell you elitists!! |
Are you really that dumb or are you trying (and failing) to be funny? |
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| Smiley :D |
| quote: | Originally posted by theognis1002
ha
ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown
everything matches up from there....
u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?!
just tell you elitists!! |
there ya go - thats phrasing for you
the more music you listen to, the better your brain becomes at knowing when to drop the next track in
if the tunes are beatmatched, phrased correctly and in compatible keys the mix should always sound reasonable unless you really up the faders/EQs |
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| Tony Morello |
we're not hiding anything here, there's no secrets
you have to invest time to teach your brain how to listen and react to the music
the more time you spend behind the decks practicing, the more you're teaching your brain how this actually works
some pick it up quicker, especially those with a musical background
it just takes time
when i first got my tables i was playing about 5-9 hours a day for about 6 months then played my first gig, was a little shakey (very nervous) but it was good
point being, you have to practice... a lot |
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| Andryuha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Smiley :D
there ya go - thats phrasing for you
the more music you listen to, the better your brain becomes at knowing when to drop the next track in
if the tunes are beatmatched, phrased correctly and in compatible keys the mix should always sound reasonable unless you really up the faders/EQs |
Not to jack this thread, but I have a question about keys. I'm understanding a key, as for example, the differences in the "thickness" of a beat. Is that a correct assumption? Is that what determines whether two tracks go together? |
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| AndskiSpeed |
| The key of a track is a note, for example A maj, Emin etc |
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| Andryuha |
| quote: | Originally posted by AndskiSpeed
The key of a track is a note, for example A maj, Emin etc |
hmm, im not too familiar with english musical terminology. You're talking about major and minor, right? So when phrasing, you need to make sure that both tracks' phrases are written in the same key (major or minor). I'm I understanding this correctly? |
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| Smiley :D |
| quote: | Originally posted by Andryuha
Not to jack this thread, but I have a question about keys. I'm understanding a key, as for example, the differences in the "thickness" of a beat. Is that a correct assumption? Is that what determines whether two tracks go together? |
my knowledge is very limited but i believe its the root note of the tune, so all the melodies etc are in the scale of that note (someone correct me there?)
i only go by camelot but if you tries to mix a tune in 12B to 5A for example it would probably sound pretty bad and disharmonious
you need to make sure the 2 tunes are in compatible keys (not necessarily the same)
a tune wont change key after a phrase (hopefully) |
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