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Nu-trance/New trance/Minimal-trance (pg. 3)
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Spirit5
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Originally posted by SMC
30 second samples of this kind of music is as pointless as looking only at one corner of a big painting. The whole beauty of music like this is unveiled when listening for long periods without concentrating much.

"Trances / Drones" is nice stuff, but it's not among my favorites. Robert Rich's "Calling Down The Sky" is however. Awesome album, i recommend it.


Yeah I know. I am reluctant to buy this more abstract stuff. I guess it makes me fall asleep. So used to really energetic or really melodic stuff. I guess I am kind of ADD, I can't sit still without doing something. Maybe I'll get used to it. I like Steve Roach's music, esp the album "Strutures In Silence". I like to find music I can drive with, since I listen to music the most while driving. I would fall asleep with this stuff...good music to listen to before bed, but I go to bed so late usually.

Psy and pure-textural ambient music are two genres that i've wanted to get into and they really appeal to me deep down, but when I listen to them, I get bored. Guess i'm used to catchy melodies, that's why I like Amethystium so much.
julien2
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Originally posted by Az
maaaaaaaaaan it was all you, you did it

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julien2
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Originally posted by Lilith
I just don't see how it (the article) really needs to justify itself as a new sub-genre without needing to take the proverbial dump on all that came before it :)
As popular as it is to dump on the contemporary pop-trance music, the DJ's, producers and fans of that part of the trance genre, the actual music itself should eventually begin to form it's own little clique of followers simply on the merits of it's own achievements in the end. Which is not always easy to see this early in but it'll come to fruition without some pretentious journo needing to ram it down everyone else's throats with just their definition.


Oh, I understand what you meant now.
It is interesting.
Derivative
People love putting abstract concepts into neat little boxes though. It makes them easier to understand and easier to consume.

The truth is that if you could perfectly describe a style of music using words alone, there would be no need to make said music. It reinforces the validity of obscurity in art. As long as you have people that write about music instead of making it themselves to articulate their point, then there will always be this sort of misunderstanding.

I prefer not to write about music or to describe it or reduce it to words on a page or a name of a genre. I'd rather try and make the music I want to make myself and see what happens. Eventually there will come a point when people can no longer reduce my work to words like 'crap' and 'utter bollocks.'

Oh well.
Sykonee
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Originally posted by Derivative
People love putting abstract concepts into neat little boxes though. It makes them easier to understand and easier to consume.

The truth is that if you could perfectly describe a style of music using words alone, there would be no need to make said music. It reinforces the validity of obscurity in art. As long as you have people that write about music instead of making it themselves to articulate their point, then there will always be this sort of misunderstanding.

I prefer not to write about music or to describe it or reduce it to words on a page or a name of a genre. I'd rather try and make the music I want to make myself and see what happens. Eventually there will come a point when people can no longer reduce my work to words like 'crap' and 'utter bollocks.'

Oh well.

There's a way around that too.

"Words cannot describe this, it's so bad!":p
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Dusty Kid - Cowboy


thats some minimal trance
noikeee
Half of what is now being labeled as "neo-trance" doesn't sound remotely trancy to me at all. I mean, Nathan Fake's Dinamo TRANCE? What the flying ? A couple bleeps with melancholic strings on top is now trance?

I don't hear many similarities to the early 90s neither.
SMC
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Originally posted by Spirit5
Yeah I know. I am reluctant to buy this more abstract stuff. I guess it makes me fall asleep. So used to really energetic or really melodic stuff. I guess I am kind of ADD, I can't sit still without doing something. Maybe I'll get used to it. I like Steve Roach's music, esp the album "Strutures In Silence". I like to find music I can drive with, since I listen to music the most while driving. I would fall asleep with this stuff...good music to listen to before bed, but I go to bed so late usually.

Psy and pure-textural ambient music are two genres that i've wanted to get into and they really appeal to me deep down, but when I listen to them, I get bored. Guess i'm used to catchy melodies, that's why I like Amethystium so much.


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RebeL9
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Originally posted by noikeee
Half of what is now being labeled as "neo-trance" doesn't sound remotely trancy to me at all. I mean, Nathan Fake's Dinamo TRANCE? What the flying ? A couple bleeps with melancholic strings on top is now trance?

I don't hear many similarities to the early 90s neither.


I totally agree. the ******s using the term neo-trance probably don't have a clue about how the early 90s trance sounded.
basd
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Originally posted by RebeL9
I totally agree. the ******s using the term neo-trance probably don't have a clue about how the early 90s trance sounded.

Everyone knows it should be called neotechtrouse!

SMC
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Originally posted by RebeL9
I totally agree. the ******s using the term neo-trance probably don't have a clue about how the early 90s trance sounded.


Most of the times, yes. There is some of this minimal neo-whatever stuff that actually is kinda trancy and there are many tracks that i like. I can recognize certain characterstics that also can be found in trance, but to call it neo-trance is stupid. It makes it sound like trance is extinct and this is the closest one can get, and that's really not the case. "Tiesto and Oakenfold are cheese, so this right here must be the new trance." That's veeery insightful. :rolleyes:
julien2
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Originally posted by RebeL9
I totally agree. the ******s using the term neo-trance probably don't have a clue about how the early 90s trance sounded.


Neo-trance (or whatever) takes its root into early 90's trance sounce.
However, I dont think it sounds the same (just like at the technologies used then and now.

But I think you are right to say most people dont have a clue.
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