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Music Progression During a Party
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| D:Jay |
There has been some discussion here in the past regarding the "ideal" music progression during a party. I said "ideal" because when talking to different people I meet during parties, everyone seems to have a different preference on what kind of "style" they want to listen to during a night our a weekend out.
Like me for example, depending on how long I'm gonna party, there's a particular flow of style I like to listen to for me to have a great night or weekend.
Here's the way I like it:
1. For a typical 5 to 8 hour Saturday Night Party:
Vocal/Melodic Trance - Epic Trance - Progressive / Uplifting Trance - Progresssive House (for cool down)
2. If I go to an After Hours House Party (Typically last until Sunday Night) after No.1 above, I'll skip the Progressive House (cool down).
Progressive Trance - Hard Trance - Techno - Tribal Trance - Progressive House and maybe a little Electro for cool down.
As you can tell, I'm not a big fan of Psyc, Breaks and Electro :confused:
How about you guys? What floats your Boat? |
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| idoru |
| For me? Never end on a "cool down." Build from the slowest to the highest and end on a massive note. Going from low to high then low often kills the vibe. |
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| BLOWZO |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
For me? Never end on a "cool down." Build from the slowest to the highest and end on a massive note. Going from low to high then low often kills the vibe. |
I would agree with this for the most part.... I do however need to take a breath, and have a water after a hard bad ass set... so the breaks do come in handy once in a while. |
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| Alain |
Progression is definitely important but it depends on the music and party though. At least from my experience over the years. I've seen situations that were expected not work out, where situations unexpected worked out better than perfectly.
For example one event I was involved with years ago no joke this was the lineup order
Terry Mullan > DJ DB > Grand Master Flash > Mark Farina > Afrika Bambataa
house to dnb to hip hop to house to breaks??
till this day I rarely ever see a room explode in that much energy
from the front of the room to the back people were jumping up and down with their hands up for 5 hours straight, this was roughly about 6,000 people |
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| Marcus007 |
| lol to this thread |
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| BLOWZO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alain
Progression is definitely important but it depends on the music and party though. At least from my experience over the years. I've seen situations that were expected not work out, where situations unexpected worked out better than perfectly.
For example one event I was involved with years ago no joke this was the lineup order
Terry Mullan > DJ DB > Grand Master Flash > Mark Farina > Afrika Bambataa
house to dnb to hip hop to house to breaks??
till this day I rarely ever see a room explode in that much energy
from the front of the room to the back people were jumping up and down with their hands up for 5 hours straight, this was roughly about 6,000 people |
ahhh Good ole' Terry Mullan... First DJ I ever saw Live. In an abandoned warehouse almost in the Detroit River... A lot of firsts that night, now that I think about it....
Thnaks for the memories Alain |
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| lex400sc |
| the ideal progression is whatever gets the crowd going and makes them beg for more. the only thing you can generalize is that there must be a slower starting point at the beginning to acclimate the crowd to your sound, then a building of energy as you go on. the build doesn't always have to be steady and gradual, djs can rollercoaster it in the middle as long as they don't lose the crowd in doing so. the sorriest excuse for progression is when a dj just strings together a list of popular crowdpleasers and calls it a set. another no-no is when openers get too carried away and bang it out full-throttle, leaving the headliner with a giant ' you' :toothless |
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| allan77 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lex400sc
another no-no is when openers get too carried away and bang it out full-throttle, leaving the headliner with a giant ' you' :toothless |
LOL |
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| DaveT |
Wow, I could go on forever about this topic.
But I'll just try to keep it simple...
People think a certain style must be played before, for example, a trance DJ. Some promoters think it needs to be house. Other's think it needs to be trance.
To me, style isn't so important rather than doing a good set that properly builds the energy in the room and leads off so the headliner can pick things right up.
The last time I saw this done masterfully was Alain vs. Syd Gris opening for AvB last July. Their opening set was awesome, and AvB came in really feeling it and it made for what some consider the best night in all of 2006.
You never want to bang it out too fast or too hard, though, as that's a big ole F-U! to the upcoming DJ of building his own progression properly and it's also a big ole F-U! to the energy in the room.
After years of me saying how great this cities regular openers are, I think SF has suffered in the last year in the realm of its openers standing out compared to other cities. It was a year where a lot of new (on a regular basis) openers came about and the rustiness showed. This goes for just about all the new openers I saw on multiple occasions -- Alain, Blurr, The Alibi guys, and at least one or two that's slipping my mind. -- etc. THere's a couple other new regular openers that I have heard had issues (like playing anthemy or too Ferry like), but since I have not been able to fairly judge them myself no names here.
NOTE: Just because a night goes well overall and you were an openers, it doesn't mean you did your job nearly as well as you could have. Not matter how much people kiss your ass and say your set was great. Yes, I am calling a lot of your brown-nosers!
Also, I am person who STRONGLY believes openers for major headliners should earn their way to that spot...and in the last couple of years in this area,, a large chunk of the openers I've seen around (not pointing anyone out, largely a general thing) haven't done in the DJing realm to even remotely earn a chance to open, in my very honest, rutheless opinion.
The big question is will the new regular openers look back and learn from those nights, experiences, etc. So far, I've heard a bit of talk from some people but then I hear them again and I don't see much of an improvement. And it's a bit disappointing.
OK, ready for your flames now.
Sorry, it's just my honest opinion. I still love you all!
Find it funny myself that I say all this yet I'm too chicken to DJ at some place myself....heheh...
OK, my rant is over. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
lol @ Daves post. That's awesome
^5 |
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| nchs09 |
| an example of tribal trance would be? |
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| DaveT |
I think we are all gonna learn how receptive some people are to criticism (that's not lashing out)....
In the end, it's just my opinion. 95% of you can disagree with me, nothing wrong with that. But I know for a fact not all of you disagree, so leaving that 5% of agreement open lol.
Don't hate me. it's my love of the scene that brings out this criticism!!!! |
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