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Robert Henke's Monodeck II (pg. 4)
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| Ryan0751 |
No , really? I didn't know that. I just bought my 92 because it looked so pretty.
You mentioned durability. That's EXACTLY why I mentioned the Xone vs. DJX. Take the sound quality issue out of the equation and it's the same comparison. You'd have two boxes with similar control features, built using VERY different quality components.
You're gonna tell me a $200 midi controller will be as durable as a $600 midi controller?
And if you don't want the soundcard, they are offereing the 1D which is exactly that.
It's a premium product, if you don't want to buy it then don't.
Why are we arguing about this? I was simply trying to give the product some merit.
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
dude. don't give me that. a XONE vs DJX discussion, it's not just how many functions, it's sound quality, durability, etc etc etc.
MIDI controllers don't work the same way. they are just boxes with wires inside, that give out a digital value for a program to do the rest. MIDI controllers do nothing internally, other than supply data to their hosts. they don't process your sound.
in other words, any controller with the same functions as a 2D and is decently built will do just as good as a 2D, even if the 2D is A&H and you built the other one yourself.
if i buy an Evo for $200US, and a firewire soundcard for my PC, i have 2 seperate pieces of kit. i don't NEED to use the soundcard with the controller if i don't want to. not to mention, frickin' A&H hasn't stepped up and made their cards firewire, only USB. |
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| jupiterone |
I still think the price for the 2D is overkill.
If someone already has a spare sound card/utility then it really isn't worth it if it's only for compact travelling and recording to your laptop.
One huge download for me about the 2D and 3D for that matter is that they had a lot more room to fit in one more knob in the midi section to make it 3. Instead it has two, I don't see much good in that at all especially if someone just wants to be a 2D instead of an entire 3D/other mixer for its midi capabilities and they wanna dj with it, it's kind of a drawback.
If it isn't for Live play I don't really think it's that big of a deal. I've seen the UC-33 be used many places live, so I really doubt it's bad. Plus I tend to use a load of faders. Only draw back is ofcourse, not many buttons.
I respect A&H ofcourse they make great products, the 3D is a scream and I'm sure the 2D midi sections perform just as well. I think it's more as to what you want to do with the controller that makes you decide upon thwat to buy. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Solution: Buy both!
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
I still think the price for the 2D is overkill.
If someone already has a spare sound card/utility then it really isn't worth it if it's only for compact travelling and recording to your laptop.
One huge download for me about the 2D and 3D for that matter is that they had a lot more room to fit in one more knob in the midi section to make it 3. Instead it has two, I don't see much good in that at all especially if someone just wants to be a 2D instead of an entire 3D/other mixer for its midi capabilities and they wanna dj with it, it's kind of a drawback.
If it isn't for Live play I don't really think it's that big of a deal. I've seen the UC-33 be used many places live, so I really doubt it's bad. Plus I tend to use a load of faders. Only draw back is ofcourse, not many buttons.
I respect A&H ofcourse they make great products, the 3D is a scream and I'm sure the 2D midi sections perform just as well. I think it's more as to what you want to do with the controller that makes you decide upon thwat to buy. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
The Xones are more suited for Tech House or Techno? I've never heard such a claim. |
That was just an example, albeit not the greatest. All that I'm trying to say (and I've heard the same from quite a few other people so it's not baseless) is that the Xone series seems more suitable for long, drawn-out and precise mixing as opposed to the DJM series that feels more suitable for faster, less precise mixing.
That's it. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
That was just an example, albeit not the greatest. All that I'm trying to say (and I've heard the same from quite a few other people so it's not baseless) is that the Xone series seems more suitable for long, drawn-out and precise mixing as opposed to the DJM series that feels more suitable for faster, less precise mixing.
That's it. |
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Crock of , m8. ;) |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
:stongue:
Crock of , m8. ;) |
Eh, I'd venture to say that it's probably subjective. It's just what I've gathered after multiple uses of both. When I've used the DJM for a bit of Hard Techno (quick transitions) I thought it was perfect, but when I spun my regular stuff on it I despised it. Vice versa when I tried likewise on my Xone. *shrug* |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Eh, I'd venture to say that it's probably subjective. It's just what I've gathered after multiple uses of both. When I've used the DJM for a bit of Hard Techno (quick transitions) I thought it was perfect, but when I spun my regular stuff on it I despised it. Vice versa when I tried likewise on my Xone. *shrug* |
But that's just it - it's all subjective.
There is no right or wrong when it comes to comparing rigs like those - it's all in the hands of who's using them.
If you were comparing something like a scratch mixer and those, then you might have a distinction, but comparing those two as if one is better than the other across the board for certain genres is just tomfoolery!
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Eh, I'd venture to say that it's probably subjective. It's just what I've gathered after multiple uses of both. When I've used the DJM for a bit of Hard Techno (quick transitions) I thought it was perfect, but when I spun my regular stuff on it I despised it. Vice versa when I tried likewise on my Xone. *shrug* |
Yes, it's definately subjective. However, from what I've seen the general consensus is the exact opposite: Techno DJs tend to migrate more towards the Xones, while many House/Tech House DJs have been all over the DJM-800.
Of course, it's still subjective. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
By the way heres Richies controller, was on Doepfer
I'd give my left kidney for that :wtf: |
jesus, too ing much
get creative with a set? just ing start producing seriously.. |
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| ThaMaestro |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
what's so special about this Monodeck II mixer? i can see its very special, but im not into this stuff so much, and was just wondering why people here even give their kidney for this mixer :p;) |
answer my question ;)! |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
answer my question ;)! |
first, itīs not a mixer. its a midi controller. it is used for controlling software that supports it, like say Ableton Live. whatīs nice about it is it is a huge midi controller with a bunch of functions and its very nicely laid out. no company sells such a thing so far, so anyone would like to have one. |
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