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Are Dj's Musicians? (pg. 3)
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| nusty |
| this is why I love Live PA! |
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| Chris Allen |
Anyone can slap two tracks together, with a little practice, even beat-match them.
Can they mix harmonically though?
Can they plan a set musically so the night can flow?
Can they work a crowd with chords so they feel emotion and enjoy a set?
It takes more than just putting CD's in a CD player or vinyl on a record to be a DJ.
Are DJ's musicians? Yes, more now than ever especially with the demand that the DJ is also the producer. |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Good DJs are, yes. |
+1
let's take some examples shall we?
trance:
is someone like armin considered a musician when he slops his latest trance hits from asot into a mix and sells it as ASOT2007!!! ? hell no. he's more like a promoter of a genre.
how about some other classic mixes like pvd's POD (vol 1 not vol2), where paul basically deconstructs every single song, than reconstructs the songs into a seamless mix. is he considered a musician? hell ya!
being a musician is like cooking, anyone can slop together some ingredients and call himself a cook, but than there are chefs that people actually pay big money to eat their food. the difference? they have a mastery of the ingredients that is beyond the scope of normal people where they impeccably mix ingredients to produce a work of art |
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| activate |
| who ing cares... shut up dance |
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| Misanthrope |
LIKE definitely not.
I would know because i have right to validate and judge any person.
oh yeah and I have phd in music, which I bought online the other day.
ya p.s.
I've be
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| electro funk |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
who ing cares... shut up dance |
ahaha ya true but if that was the case then there would be no need for a site like this |
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| djbruuen |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
No.
Producers aren't necessarily musicians either, although a lot of the better producers also play/played one or more instruments instruments. |
agreed! even producers aren't necessarily musicians. If the extent of the song a producer makes is playing 3 notes on a midi controller to get some crazy synth sound, i think it'd be loose to classify him or her as a musician.
As one of the previous comments about a girl playing a flute is a musician, well no, they're learning. A musician is someone who has mastered (to some degree) an instrument that they play (for a very vague classification, i'd say being at least at grade 8 ROM level in piano could give you the 'musician' status. but of course there are many expections to that, as not everyone goes the testing route. (and for other instruments, the skill level can be fairly high by grade 5-6 even) |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by electro funk
ahaha ya true but if that was the case then there would be no need for a site like this |
what? |
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| electro funk |
| he said shut up and dance. a very good statement but if we were all to shut up we wouldn't be talking on here. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
how about some other classic mixes like pvd's POD (vol 1 not vol2), where paul basically deconstructs every single song, than reconstructs the songs into a seamless mix. is he considered a musician? hell ya! |
There's definitely a lot more talent and work involved in that, but it's still analogous to a very carefully-prepared collage - not the same as actually painting or taking the photos.
Live PAs are the closest thing. Sometimes they actually involve playing instruments, but even when they don't, it's the aspect of composing the sounds in real time that's important.
I suppose there are more general definitions of "musician" - i.e. "a person who makes music a profession" - but if you try to use that definition literally then you have to start including the promoters and club owners too. Musicians are people that either play a musical instrument, compose, or conduct. Turntables aren't an instrument, mixing isn't composition, and you can't conduct a machine. |
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| Cribby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Live PAs are the closest thing. Sometimes they actually involve playing instruments, but even when they don't, it's the aspect of composing the sounds in real time that's important.
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I would have to agree with your post, especially this segment. So my answer would also be
NON! |
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