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| star-traveller |
Go bull somebody else with that biased info from Human Rights organization. Neutral??? How could you ever possibly say that.
| quote: | Russia: Police Break Up Peaceful Demonstration
Hundreds of Protesters Detained
(Moscow, April 15, 2007) – Riot police and special forces used excessive force to break up a peaceful demonstration in Moscow on April 14, beating numerous demonstrators and detaining hundreds, Human Rights Watch said today. Human Rights Watch called on Moscow authorities to investigate the use of force by police and to protect peaceful demonstrators.
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Why don't they mention there that the demonstration wasn't allowed in the center of the city? Why don't they say that opposition was given a place but those 'peaceful people' wanted to rally in the center so they can setup a riot???
No Trust to hrw.org, I bet they eat the US money to write that biased bull. |
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| hardcore trancer |
WTF does does this have to do with people getting blown up left and right every in day and muslims killing eachother?
If the regime was so bad and evil then why did they have to go invade them years later???were they not evil anough in 1993?:rolleyes:
stop comparing the violence and the bloodshed thats happening to these people now to what happend 20 years go,because whats has happend in the past by the Saddam regime is nowhere near this current disaster in Iraq. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
stop comparing the violence and the bloodshed thats happening to these people now to what happend 20 years go,because whats has happend in the past by the Saddam regime is nowhere near this current disaster in Iraq. |
Bullet in the head from a Kalashnikov is just as effective as an M16, just like the finger that pulls the trigger, doesn't matter if it's an Arab doing it or a yank.
Dead is dead, sure the reasons and ideals vary and they'll both tell you they're doing it for the moral high ground in asserting themselves, the yanks do it in the name of democracy, Saddam would have told you he was doing it for state security and the Sunni or Shiia would have told you they're doing it for why?
They disagree with the Koran?
So... boy on the internet, you've got that little Iranian flag there proud as punch and probably a handful of reasons why you don't like the Yanks, also a good chance your family was Shiia sect if they came from Iran. Maybe a 20-25% chance they where from a Sunni or 'Shoshi' (mixed heritage, think that's how it's spelt, been a long time since I was in Iran) heck you could even be from one of the other small minorities.
What I don't understand from you is why you would care so much about Iraq?
Where you born when the Iraqi's came pouring across the border under Saddam's orders?
I was, wasn't there when it happened but I was there with my parents when they where working there after the shooting stopped (engineer and an orthopaedic surgeon) and there really wasn't much love for the Iraqi's on that side of the fence and for a lot of really damn good reasons. They killed and maimed a lot of Iranians, over nothing really, nothing worth killing another person for, let alone the million or so that died in that conflict.
So tell me, why do you want the US to fail in whatever feeble attempt they do for peace in the country now? Is it because you want to see the Shiia there succeed or just because you're devils advocate for the sake of an argument and want to ignore the history and heritage of the region you're tied up to?
I mean if you feel that strongly enough about it, why aren't you back there?
If you're going to be rude about it, call me names and just give me a 3 sentence reply then don't bother answering. |
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| shaolin_Z |
How do the crimes and attrocities of the Ba'ath Party, funded and brought to power by the US, bear any relevance to ordinary Iraqis? Especially when Sadaam was trained by the CIA specifically for assasinations and torture? Not only is that a Red Herring, but suggest the opposite of what you were trying to argue. |
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| M.Johan |
Not enough said
WAT's about the Iraqi refugees
inside and outside Iraq
Source: UNHCR
The Source
Internally displaced: 1,900,000
Syria: 1,200,000
Jordan: 750,000
Gulf states: 200,000
Egypt: 100,000
Iran: 54,000
Lebanon: 40,000
Turkey: 10,000
Only '466' are accepted in USA
OK very good
Where's ur democracy and the freedom sent by ur ing Marines to the Iraq?????????????
Is the result by ur freedom |
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| erdega |
Show me something credible to parallel what's happening today
Those are illegitimate pressure groups acting under auspices of US govt , not in any way humanitarian or unbiased. They never condemn US and its allies , except to soften the blow if it becomes public like abu ghraib torture |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
How do the crimes and attrocities of the Ba'ath Party, funded and brought to power by the US, bear any relevance to ordinary Iraqis? Especially when Sadaam was trained by the CIA specifically for assasinations and torture? Not only is that a Red Herring, but suggest the opposite of what you were trying to argue. |
lie. you are perpetuating a lie. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by erdega
Show me something credible to parallel what's happening today
Those are illegitimate pressure groups acting under auspices of US govt , not in any way humanitarian or unbiased. They never condemn US and its allies , except to soften the blow if it becomes public like abu ghraib torture |
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are working for the NeoCons...i've heard it all now.
you are so far detatched from reality it is mindboggling. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by erdega
Show me something credible to parallel what's happening today |
Won't be necessary, once the US is gone it'll be same Iraqi on Iraqi violence with less intervention. The only way it'll stop is if Iraq ends up with some kind of neutral leadership both the Shiia and Sunni community can listen too and hopefully convince them that shooting and bombing one another does nothing for the country.
| quote: | | Those are illegitimate pressure groups acting under auspices of US govt , not in any way humanitarian or unbiased. They never condemn US and its allies , except to soften the blow if it becomes public like abu ghraib torture |
Do you actually read any of this? Or you just trying to sling mud?
I actually don't mind HRW, they're one of the few who've bothered to campaign for Africans who are suffering terribly and have done for some time, even more so than some of the Middle East and for longer. That's my emotional investment there.
What the emotional investment for a Serb?
Why should you care what happens in the middle east or are you merely one of the token US haters who delights in seeing them fail? I'd actually support the US as well if I thought they had a hope in hell of stopping the violence in the middle east but they simply cannot do it with some kind of worldwide effort and they aren't doing a very good job on their own.
However, I'm old enough and cynical enough to realise that won't happen, just like I'm cynical enough to never completely trust anything I read or see in the media.
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are working for the NeoCons...i've heard it all now.
you are so far detatched from reality it is mindboggling. |
I just want to see the concrete proof that they are! :haha: You know, that huge lump or irrefutable truth that no one could ever deny that Amnesty International and HRW are in the pockets of the US government! hahahah! ah, good times... start drilling your teeth out and put on the tinfoil hat.
I picked my sources as carefully as I could, ones my mother worked for in the past and people I've personally met, I am wary of INDICT though. |
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| M.Johan |
^^Keep ur fackes to urself
Bec.not every human rights orgainzation (About Us)depends manily on real facts
HRW orgainzation deliberately or ignorantly
showed these reports before on the M.Eastern countries.like Egypt
Accusations and disadvanatges and these DAMNpropaganda dialogues about the M.East,
is the main conspiracy to cover up ur continous war crimes in
Iraq. |
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