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| SuspicionVandit |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires.
Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?:conf: |
/Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers?
nope. It's that they put these piece of protections all over their products, wether it be music downloads, video media, pdf books, etc. If i want to copy my , then i want to copy my . If the person so chooses to use the key for his own profits(copy+resell), (as with anything in this world) they are responsible for any consequences they run into.
If i don't want to deal with the fact that my mp3 player doesn't support .mp4(p), then i better find a way to extract the key from my iTunes downloads, copy them to unrestricted mp3 and have my music with me like any other person can. i'm sorry if i can't afford an Ipod right now, can you sell your Bentleyz Spinnaz to help get everyone in the world a cheap media player that can support .mp4p or .aacp?
If my friend wants to copy his entire library of DVDs to his networked media drive, so that he can watch his movies over the internet from anywhere in the world,then i'm sorry, he's going to have to bust a key for that.
Yeah, there's piracy in the world and the key is certainly going to be used for it. But making the normal consumer bust his nuts to use his media for pratical matters is ridiculous. All these companies are desperate to save their zillion dollar profits by incorporating piece of protections on their prodcuts.
I believe certain Sony BD media requires a TV or a tuner that has HDCP. So you can buy your Dancing With the Stars BlueRay disc boxset for $120, buy your beautiul "42 Samsung LCD, buy a beautiful Samsung BD player, and then realize you need BUY an HDCP connector, which whole purpose is to stop piracy. A fully legitimate consumer, stopped dead in his tracks, because he needs to buy something to wage a war on somehting he is not a part of.
Then there is the Starforce fiasco, which permanently ed up people disc drives.
the Anti-DRM movement has been going on since inception, and not just because it annoys the piracy groups. because it pisses the out of regular consumers.
I don't have an answer to stopping piracy. It's been around since, i dunno, forever. and it'll probably be around for, i dunno, forever. But this whole DRM+CSS is ridiculous and sometimes, it pisses people the off.
/Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?:conf:
Yeah, Tom Cruise is great. I somewhat enjoy his movies and everyone deserves what they get. But when you give someone $50m, he does a piss poor job, the movie ends like , then the studio complains "hmmm, we didn't earn ENOUGH profits, we must make it our initiative to the consumer in the ass," then give the actor $70m for his next movie, and then THAT movie is a piece of with even less profits, well, then some things come into mind. Budgeting and quality. , i'd still see War of the Worlds 2 if it came out in theaters, but I wouldn't have the least bit of sympathy if it was pirated in a 0-day
Is everyone who breaks DRM a thief to you? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Wait, so you are upset because big corporation make billions of dollars off consumers? Maybe if you got a JOB that payed enough you coud buy what your heart desires.
Why should Tom Cruise (or any actor/artist/athelete) take a pay cut? They earned what they made - they draw the crowds which draw the dollars...do you have any concept of economics?:conf: |
Wow. I'm tempted to write a long response to this but I'm feeling a bit lazy now. Gehz and SuspicionVandit seem to be doing a fine enough job. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Yes i have because "tape" wears out as oppose to DVDs which, if kept in their cases and not scratched DO NOT. And if you really NEED a backup buy 2...they are friggen cheap. |
actually contrary to popular belief all CD based media (yes this includes dvd, hd-dvd, blu-ray etc) does have a short life span of approx 10yrs because of the head that they endure from playing. this has been proven time and time again.
also buy 2? thats the point of fair use dumbass. so you arent paying for the same content you legally acquired in the first place! why should you pay the movie industry TWICE!?
im not going to argue with someone who is as much of a moron when it comes to this as you obviously are. run alone now. |
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| SuspicionVandit |
| i am starting to vaguely remember Tiesto14 being an "back in the day" |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
i am starting to vaguely remember Tiesto14 being an "back in the day" |
lol i figured that out just from this thread.
and just for your info
AAC = MP4
m4a and m4p = the extensions for those files. :) |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
actually contrary to popular belief all CD based media (yes this includes dvd, hd-dvd, blu-ray etc) does have a short life span of approx 10yrs because of the head that they endure from playing. this has been proven time and time again. |
Interesting...i have plenty of CDs i bought in the early 1990s that still work without any problems. Maybe you should use more care with yours.
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
also buy 2? thats the point of fair use dumbass. so you arent paying for the same content you legally acquired in the first place! why should you pay the movie industry TWICE!? |
Most people dont because the dont whine about like this...When someone damages a DVD or CD that they must have they go and buy a new one and not look for ways to scam the SYSTEM!.
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
im not going to argue with someone who is as much of a moron when it comes to this as you obviously are. run alone now. |
You mean "run along now":rolleyes:
Will do...oh and tell your girl i said howdy.;) |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
i am starting to vaguely remember Tiesto14 being an "back in the day" |
You were here back in the day? 2005 you joined...pppffff n00b. |
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| SuspicionVandit |
| quote: | Originally posted by richie rich
buy 2 |
why stop there? buy 200!
and for legality
i also remember a lot of things being illegal. and now they are ......legal???????????????????????????????? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Interesting...i have plenty of CDs i bought in the early 1990s that still work without any problems. Maybe you should use more care with yours. |
Perhaps he meant from a total of ten years of play. Not ten years that you've owned the CD, but once a CD has been read for approximately ten years in total. Stop and think for a second.
That said, I have read plenty of times that CDs do have limited life. Someone will need to find an article here before either side can safely state that they are correct.
| quote: | | Most people dont because the dont whine about like this...When someone damages a DVD or CD that they must have they go and buy a new one and not look for ways to scam the SYSTEM!. |
What? So you're telling me you wouldn't be pissed that if you spent $15 on a DVD and it broke accidentally and you needed to go out and spend another $15? You wouldn't? Honestly? Kudos to you, sir.
Also, being able to copy something that you own to whatever media device you own is legal. I've copied many DVDs of mine to my laptop when I've gone on a long car/train/plane trip before so I have something to do to pass the time. Why should I not be allowed to do that? What is so illegal about that? It's far more convenient for me to copy them to my laptop than it is for me to carry an extra DVD and/or CD case with me.
| quote: | | You mean "run along now":rolleyes: |
Bit of the pot calling the kettle black, eh? See below...
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
SYSTEM!. |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Argueing |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Perhaps he meant from a total of ten years of play. Not ten years that you've owned the CD, but once a CD has been read for approximately ten years in total. Stop and think for a second. |
You mean a total of 10 years play time? i doubt after that long you would still enjoy the CD..lol.
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
What? So you're telling me you wouldn't be pissed that if you spent $15 on a DVD and it broke accidentally and you needed to go out and spend another $15? You wouldn't? Honestly? Kudos to you, sir.. |
Ya i would...same way i would be pissed if my toaster broke and i had to buy another one for $40....but i suck it up and do it....nothing is for free in this world.
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Also, being able to copy something that you own to whatever media device you own is legal. I've copied many DVDs of mine to my laptop when I've gone on a long car/train/plane trip before so I have something to do to pass the time. Why should I not be allowed to do that? What is so illegal about that? It's far more convenient for me to copy them to my laptop than it is for me to carry an extra DVD and/or CD case with me. |
Well i techinically do not see anything wrong with that...but maybe you should be whining to all people who download illegal day i and day out...those our the ones who have ruined it for you.
Bit of the pot calling the kettle black, eh? See below... [/QUOTE] |
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| Marc Summers |
this is the ing nerdiest thread ever
look at the geek argue |
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