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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Australian pub bans heterosexuals
The hotel's ban is a first for Australia
A gay pub in the city of Melbourne has won the right to ban heterosexuals - the first time such legislation has been passed in Australia.
The Victorian state civil and administrative tribunal ruled the Peel Hotel could ban patrons based on their sexual orientation.
The pub's management said the move would stop groups of heterosexual men and women abusing gay people.
Civil liberties groups have supported the decision.
'Safe balance'
The tribunal's president said groups of straight women found homosexual men entertaining but that such attention was dehumanising, the BBC's Phil Mercer in Sydney says.
Managers complained raucous hen nights and stag parties created a poisonous atmosphere for its gay clientele, our correspondent says.
"If I can limit the number of heterosexuals entering the Peel, then that helps me keep the safe balance," the hotel's manager, Tom McFeely, told Australian radio, according to the Reuters news agency.
Mr McFeely says he wants a "safe balance"
He said while Melbourne had 2,000 venues catering for heterosexuals, his was the only bar aimed exclusively at gay men.
Civil liberties groups said homosexuals should be allowed to relax in places without fear of bullying or intimidation.
Australia's equal opportunity laws prevent discrimination based on race, religion or sexuality. |
Australian pub bans heterosexuals
Australia is a ing joke. Where the hell this world is coming to? |
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| tathi |
one pub changes its door policy and australia is a ing joke? silly ad hominem generalisations are a joke :p
i love how melbourne people say sydney is the gay capital of australia haha :p |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| There'd be an uproar if they banned homosexuals from anywhere. Weird. |
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| Omega_M |
| How do you stop them from entering the pub ? |
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| Renegade |
Haha, wow, I've actually been there... :clown:
Frankly I fail to see the problem here. Discrimination is certainly a problem when it's targetted against a specific minority, but not when it's used by a minority to seclude themselves from the majority. There is nothing wrong with gay-nights, college groups for Japanese students, Mensa, or discount bus fares for seniors, but there would be something wrong with everyone-except-gays nights, everyone-except-Japanese-student clubs, people-of-unexceptional-intelligence only clubs, or discount bus fares for everyone who isn't over the age of 65. See the difference?
The liberal-democratic tradition is that of protecting against the tyranny of the majority, not of enforcing social homogeneity or preventing minority groups and individuals to congregate exclusively with others like them. Is anyone here going to seriously argue that homosexuals shouldn't be free to congregate with other homosexuals on a privately owned property?
Besides, the point that's surely going to be lost in this debate is that, gay or otherwise, the place is a hole. Wouldn't go back there even if I wasn't banned. |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
How do you stop them from entering the pub ? |
I was thinking the same. And what are the methods to determine if someone is gay? |
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| Fir3start3r |
Interesting considering I thought Australia was pretty conservative.
Not saying that gays don't exist in Australia or anything but if this was a hetero-only bar, the left would probably snap a synapse with moral outrage and march on city hall with chaps and sex toys...:p |
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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
I was thinking the same. And what are the methods to determine if someone is gay? |
Last one is pretty easy. You just need to use a gaydar. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
I was thinking the same. And what are the methods to determine if someone is gay? |
It's largely symbolic I guess. You can't enforce such laws. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
Last one is pretty easy. You just need to use a gay-dar. |
Bah-doom-doom. :stongue: |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Interesting considering I thought Australia was pretty conservative. |
Just because their PM is what we would deem a conservative in North America does not mean that the country as a whole can be deemed so. Was everyone in Canada pretty much a "hippy" when Jean Cretien was PM?
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