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Noah's Ark? (pg. 2)
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| Prometheus Xex |
Hey I like that video. Why the hell didn't I consider that? I've been think about a route similar to the video, but for Adam and Eve (that's a future thread).
I'm curious how Noah saved the ocean fish too. After all marine fish are so sensitive to salinity changes in their environment that they'll die if it fluctuates too much. Just ask any marine aquarist and they tell you they're salt water disaster stories. All the freshwater rain diluting the oceans would kill off a whole lotta sea critters. |
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| echosystm |
the bible is a flawed piece of . seeing as it is the foundation of cristianity, tis too a piece of bs in my oppinion.
when someone proposes an unflawed religion which sounds like it wasnt a story written by a 3 year old (or crack addict), i'll believe it. until then, i am athiest. i want to think there is a purpose for my existence, just like everyone else... but i'm not going to bend over and lube up like some weak minded gimp to satisfy my conscience.
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
the bible is a flawed piece of . seeing as it is the foundation of cristianity, tis too a piece of bs in my oppinion.
when someone proposes an unflawed religion which sounds like it wasnt a story written by a 3 year old (or crack addict), i'll believe it. until then, i am athiest. i want to think there is a purpose for my existence, just like everyone else... but i'm not going to bend over and lube up like some weak minded gimp to satisfy my conscience.
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I like this post, it shows so much ignorance that it simply cannot be ignored. I'm interested to hear what exactly you believe is flawed about the bible and why. I presume that you are likely focusing on a litteral translation and how such a translation does not square with what we know to be true. If this is the case, I must wonder if you reject anything and everything that has ever been writen using allagory or metaphore. If that is the case, then should you not reject your own post? Finally, I submit that if you discount all religions, nay all things, simply because you cannot think past superficial inacuracies and/or are unable to grasp simple allagory then clearly you lack the ability to think critically, which would indicate you are weak minded. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
Hey I like that video. Why the hell didn't I consider that? I've been think about a route similar to the video, but for Adam and Eve (that's a future thread).
I'm curious how Noah saved the ocean fish too. After all marine fish are so sensitive to salinity changes in their environment that they'll die if it fluctuates too much. Just ask any marine aquarist and they tell you they're salt water disaster stories. All the freshwater rain diluting the oceans would kill off a whole lotta sea critters. |
The stories should not be considered as literal real world happenings. You need to consider the overall picture and interpret them in the right context. Many of these stories may have been inspired by some historical events, but they may not have recorded these events accurately. Rather, they used these events to frame stories with a deeper meaning. Other stories may be pure fiction. My 2 cents. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I presume that you are likely focusing on a litteral translation and how such a translation does not square with what we know to be true. |
Yeah thats basically it :D
Also...
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp
I lol'd! Apparently "It is obvious that evolutionists don’t know what happened and are grasping at straws". What really happened is Noah put all the dinosaurs on his ark and they all sailed off to the promised land.
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
The stories should not be considered as literal real world happenings. You need to consider the overall picture and interpret them in the right context. Many of these stories may have been inspired by some historical events, but they may not have recorded these events accurately. Rather, they used these events to frame stories with a deeper meaning. My 2 cents. |
The legend based on historical event "to frame stories with deeper meaning" is likely very accured, perticularly with the Noah's Arc story. Nearly all cultures and religions have a "great flood" story, moreover, every single culture in the Asia Minor area has a great flood story that is exceedingly consistant with the Noah story. I would suggest it is highly likely that there was a "great flood" in the area. It was likely a regional phenomina, however, to the bronze aged people that would have been present to witness such an event, regional would be tantamount to global as they would have no knowledge of events outside their immediate area. |
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| AndreaCKY772 |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
lol
btw, here's how i think it happened...
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hmmm? that's awkward, haha... |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
Yeah thats basically it :D
Also...
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp
I lol'd! Apparently "It is obvious that evolutionists don’t know what happened and are grasping at straws". What really happened is Noah put all the dinosaurs on his ark and they all sailed off to the promised land.
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I think it may be worthwhile pointing out that very few sects of the Abrihamic religions actually believe in a litteral translation of the bible. Certainly, the Catholic Church has outright stated that the bible cannot be considered to be a litteral account of history. Unfortunately, it seems that those zelots who do believe that the bible is litteral make far more noise then those persons endowed with reason (as is normally the case).
Interestingly, you mock those who take a litteral translation of the bible, however, in using the inaccuracies of the bible when translated litterally as justification for your outright rejection of the Abrahamic religions you are exhibiting the same flaws you ascribe to the litteralists. You cannot mock a litter translation as being absurd and then say that the religion is catagorically false because the stories are not accurate when litterally translated... such an argument is in itself absurd. You cannot discount something then use it to support your position. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
The stories should not be considered as literal real world happenings. You need to consider the overall picture and interpret them in the right context. Many of these stories may have been inspired by some historical events, but they may not have recorded these events accurately. Rather, they used these events to frame stories with a deeper meaning. Other stories may be pure fiction. My 2 cents. |
My point exactly. They're stories.
I don't believe in stories. I certainly won't base my entire existence around them either.
Anyway, I cbf arguing about this. I have my beliefs, you have your blind faith. Let's leave it at that. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
The legend based on historical event "to frame stories with deeper meaning" is likely very accured, perticularly with the Noah's Arc story. Nearly all cultures and religions have a "great flood" story, moreover, every single culture in the Asia Minor area has a great flood story that is exceedingly consistant with the Noah story. I would suggest it is highly likely that there was a "great flood" in the area. It was likely a regional phenomina, however, to the bronze aged people that would have been present to witness such an event, regional would be tantamount to global as they would have no knowledge of events outside their immediate area. |
True. Hinduism has its own Noah.
| quote: | | In Hinduism, Manu is a title accorded the progenitor of humankind, first king to rule this earth, who saves mankind from the universal flood. |
Hindu scriptures overflow with mythical stories which have a profound deeper meaning attached to them. Countless stories talk about heroic battles between the gods and demons. But the stories may be referring to a fight between man's virtues and vices ! Most people are aware of the largely symbolic nature of these stories. I am surprised to see so many people here believe in the fantastic stories of bible as if they are historical events. It is my understanding that they are not. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
I am surprised to see so many people here believe in the fantastic stories of bible as if they are historical events. It is my understanding that they are not. |
The problem with the bible (perticularlly the old testiment) is that it uses some actual and confirmed historical events as the setting for its teachings. Since some of what is in the bible is historically accurate there are people that have difficulty distinguishing between the fact and the faith. This is compounded by a multitude of preachers and other religious authority that have declaired the bible as the irrefutable and unquestionable word of god.... rather then the word of man reflecting on their beliefs regarding god. |
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