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Question: Where has all the love gone for Sean Miller? (pg. 9)
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| rabbitjoker |
I'm going to give my honest take on this situation. I realize that there are a number of competing interests and emtions involved in this thread - but those interests/emotions aside:
History (AFAIK):
Sean Miller had a great opportunity when he was a resident at Boa. He regularly had wonderful nights with amazing music and a great crowd following. People came to see Sean - even when he was opening for larger acts.
Somewhere along the line towards the end of the Boa era and the start of the Sonic era - Sean was courted to play internationally (either opening for Lawler or otherwise). When this happened - Toronto lost a significant asset, as Sean was no longer available to play with any regularity in Toronto.
My Analysis:
When Sean was a regular resident at Boa and Sonic- he had developed a loyal, die-hard following. People would see him out week-in and week-out regardless of other bookings. Sean had broken into the scene with his more "New York" style sound (vs. more familiar Toronto sounds). His sound was refreshing for Toronto, as it offered an alternative to what most of the club scene was exposed to on a frequent basis (at the time).
Sean decided (or his management decided) to move from a regular (once per month or more) performance schedule in Toronto to an international/other performance schedule (less often in Toronto) and as a result Sean did not play in Toronto as often as the Toronto scene was accustomed to.
(IMO) Sean's opportunity to launch further into the Toronto scene was halted by his expansion into international gigs. One can understand the desire to travel and move into other territories - but this can only be done at the expense of frequent exposure in Toronto.
The unavailability (not playing in Toronto frequently) may have impacted the connection between the Toronto scene & Sean - simply due to the fact Sean no longer had the regular local presence (due to international travel) and thus was somewhat off the local radar (although not off the preference list).
Without frequent exposure, the fan base that Sean had developed in Toronto was left to find other DJs and other venues to entertain themselves (whether or not this had anything to do with the demise of Boa or Sonic I don't know), although they still remain Sean Miller fans.
My Thoughts:
Sean was a DJ people saw every week and when he was no longer available to them (frequently), they (as anybody would) found other DJs to closely follow.
Sean Miller has maintained his popularity amongst his core fan base in Toronto - however due to non-frequent appearances over the last year, the "buzz" around his name has decreased. His popularity has still remained, but simply due to the fact the "exposure effect", the "buzz" has not remained at the level it was when he played in Toronto more frequently.
That said, not being in town every week/month/quarter doesn't change people's preference or "like" for a DJ.
My Opinion:
Sean had a "golden"-era in Toronto whereby he was one of the key weekend draws. When he chose to explore internationally that era was cut short. What the results of that era could have been if he stayed remain unknown - however Sean brings his best when he does return to the city and personally I definately will go to see him as his sound was always one that I enjoyed.
Afterthoughts:
The more variability Toronto has (as to the "sound" played) - the more vibrant our community will be. I find that as I grow older and more exposed to new sounds, the more vast my interests become and the more open I become to more unique soundscapes.
I hope our city continues to bring in different, new and unique artists and further I hope our community cultivates unique DJs who choose to provide Toronto with great music and wonderful atmospheres (parties).
* edit note: reorganized for readability. |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperJimbo
Man, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for starting this thread |
All jokes aside, I had a feeling this thread was (unintentionally) a loaded one and that ultimately it would somehow leave a bad taste in my mouth. (hah non-jenny related of course)
I'd heard the stories and scoffed at those knee-deep in politics, but now even on a personal level feel my eyes have been opened to the realities of what lengths a promoter will go to in defending their paycheck.
<- still a fan of Sean Miller, not so much a fan of those affiliated with him anymore… sorry boys. |
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| musicsnob_NOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
ultimately it would somehow leave a bad taste in my mouth. (hah non-jenny related of course)
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Mango...
or so I have been told |
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| SuperJimbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I'm going to give my honest take on this situation. |
Nice job RJ. Well articluated. A+ for effort.
Let's hope we all get the chance to hear Sean play more often in the coming months. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperJimbo
Nice job RJ. Well articulated. A+ for effort. |
Well , I'm not here to play favorites.
I'm here to call it how I see if. If someone has more/new information to help me see things better - please let me know.
I only want to have the most accurate understanding of how the world works and the reasons why things happen.
I'm not taking sides with anybody here - I'm being unbiased as I can be.
Obviously everybody has friends, relationships and other factors involved in how they feel/what they think - but in my response above I've tried to be as open and as forthcoming as I can be as to how I perceive things with respect to Sean Miller.
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Ultimately if everything is healthy, we're all healthy. So lets all make things as best, as vibrant and as fun as possible. |
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| SuperJimbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Well , I'm not here to play favorites.
I'm here to call it how I see if. If someone has more/new information to help me see things better - please let me know.
I only want to have the most accurate understanding of how the world works and the reasons why things happen.
I'm not taking sides with anybody here - I'm being unbiased as I can be.
Obviously everybody has friends, relationships and other factors involved in how they feel/what they think - but in my response above I've tried to be as open and as forthcoming as I can be as to how I perceive things with respect to Sean Miller.
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Ultimately if everything is healthy, we're all healthy. So lets all make things as best, vibrant as as fun as possible. |
Word to your mother. |
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| Jeff Button |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
<- still a fan of Sean Miller, not so much a fan of those affiliated with him anymore… sorry boys. |
so the thread turns sour for you, and you're no longer a 'fan'?
this is simply a lesson to be learned (on the boards at least) -
"Don't dish it out if you can't take it".
maybe an opportunity for a new signature, perhaps? |
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| activate |
sooo
how 'bout that local sports team? |
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| activate |
sooo
how 'bout that local sports team? |
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| shanny |
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Long time passing
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Long time ago
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Lawler's taken him away.
When will Toronto ever learn?
When will Toronto ever learn?
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Andrew's wondering?
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Jon doesn't think its gone away.
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Carey booked him.
When will crowds ever come?
When will crowds ever come?
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Jeff's just saying...
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
He's super huge in-ter-na-tion-ally
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
People should appreciate him here!
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Joe Manzone must have stole it.
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Nathan ripped it away.
Where has all the Sean Miller love gone?
Jon and Jeff ate it.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn? |
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