George Walker Bush the Lesser, Emperor-Aspiring of the Known Universe, Decider, Defender of Democracy, Liberator, Light of Lights, Overmind Most Powerful, etc. etc. visited Albania this weekend. It's one of the few corners of the world where he is not reviled, mostly because Imperial troops (albeit under his predecessor) occupied the Serbian province of Kosovo eight years ago and made it safe for Albanian ethnic cleansing. In fact, His Glorious Serendipity's visit to Tirana fell on the 8th anniversary of the armistice that ended the 1999 invasion.
As a propaganda organization affiliated with the Empire reports, His Elevated Majesty told Albanian Prime Minister Berisha
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“You get your diplomats working with Russians and EU diplomats to see if there is not a common ground,” said Bush, indicating that if there no compromise on Kosovo’s independence the US may act on its own toward the region.
“If you end up being in a position where you don’t, at some point of time, sooner rather than later, you got to say: that’s enough – Kosovo is independent,” said Bush.
Commenting on this pronouncement by His Hegemonic Enormity, Serbian Prime Minister Kostunica said that the Empire "has a right to support certain states and peoples in accordance with its interests, but not by making them a present of something which doesn't belong to it... The U.S. has to find some way of showing its favor and love for the Albanians other than presenting them with Serbian territories."
Leaving aside for the moment the question of whether Albania and the Albanians have done anything to deserve Imperial favor and love (ha!), Kostunica has a point here. Even His Most Worshipful Greatness cannot give away what is not his (occupation does not mean ownership, see), so Kosovo is right out. However, he could reward his Albanian vassals with the State of New Jersey. From what I hear, it would not be all that hard.
So is Bushi pushing for one more war, the one his putrid predecessor claimed to have won the same way he claims to be winning in his own wars
Magnetonium
... and this will become a HUGE precedent for other indendence movements all over the world: Karabach, Transdnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, etc. etc. etc. etc. while is quite fine and dandy with Russia except for the hypocrisy of US and ignoring that.
You see, Russia is less of a hypocrite on this issue because recognizing independence of Kosovo is on hand with them. They have more to gain from it. But we instead decide to KEEP INTEGRITY of the countries and try to use political and economical dialogue to achieve some sort of regional self-government and autonomy. Giving Kosovo independence will give a new rise to wars all over Eastern Europe. So much for world security, democracy and peace ...
Q5echo
the E-Jihadi is back with a vengeance!
keep up Al-Queera's work Erdega. doin a bang up job;)
erdega
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Originally posted by Q5echo
the E-Jihadi is back with a vengeance!
keep up Al-Queera's work Erdega. doin a bang up job;)
wtf ?
Why don't you answer in this thread on AQ/neocon alliance?
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=421779&forumid=66&s=
Who created and armed AQ?
Who let them be so they can steal Iraq oil fields ?
US of course and it's one of the reasons why they are thriving in US occupied lands
They claim to be fighting against "Islamic extemism" but How does one explain the neocon support for albanian muslim, chechnian muslim, their war on secular Iraqi regime?
There are somewhat logical answers once you realize their motivations
erdega
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
... and this will become a HUGE precedent for other indendence movements all over the world: Karabach, Transdnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, etc. etc. etc. etc. while is quite fine and dandy with Russia except for the hypocrisy of US and ignoring that.
You see, Russia is less of a hypocrite on this issue because recognizing independence of Kosovo is on hand with them. They have more to gain from it. But we instead decide to KEEP INTEGRITY of the countries and try to use political and economical dialogue to achieve some sort of regional self-government and autonomy. Giving Kosovo independence will give a new rise to wars all over Eastern Europe. So much for world security, democracy and peace ...
There is nothing legal or logical with US policy, it's a train that left the station long time ago and they are behaving like a bandit on a run, hijacking people and stuff and making swift rules.
They are supported by imperialist regime in Washington and by extension London , Brussels. Albanians are just a weapon for them. Their primary goal is to destroy Serbia to insure hegemony in the area that they call balkan. Second call is to insure islamic domination in the area. There is a lot of parallel of middle east and " balkan" , it's just that main actors change their roles but not their intentions
Q5echo
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Originally posted by erdega
Who created and armed AQ?
you mean the Afghan Mujahadeen?
Saudis, Britain, Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen the list goes on.
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Who let them be so they can steal Iraq oil fields ?
only you and the other propagandists are accusing of stealing oil.
i mean, in the absence of any evidence of your claim, real people, smart people, know how the free oil market operates and you haven't a logical leg to stand on my friend. sorry.
your nothing but an E-Jihadi doing work for the Islamists, spreading propaganda.
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They claim to be fighting against "Islamic extemism" but How does one explain the neocon support for albanian muslim, chechnian muslim, their war on secular Iraqi regime?
i would guess one has little to do with the other seeing as how it wasn't a neocon, or any neocons that went into Kosovo. Chenyia? c'mon.
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There are somewhat logical answers once you realize their motivations
not even somewhat.
Dupz
Irritating that Bush has put his nose in this one. My opinion on this one is that it's a strategic move against the Kremlin (who will veto any resolution to grant Kosovo independance) in light of this new missle defense "cold war" thing. Bush is just stroking his diplomatic appendage.
How funny is it that he got pick-pocketed when he was giving high-fives to the locals in Tirana. Just goes to show that Albania will warmly greet the Americans, only when they have something to gain from it. Once/if Kosovo gains independance, watch them turn their backs.
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Q5echo
you mean the Afghan Mujahadeen?
Saudis, Britain, Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen the list goes on.
only you and the other propagandists are accusing of stealing oil.
i mean, in the absence of any evidence of your claim, real people, smart people, know how the free oil market operates and you haven't a logical leg to stand on my friend. sorry.
your nothing but an E-Jihadi doing work for the Islamists, spreading propaganda.
LOL @ E-Jihadi...
Should we break out the, "No Blood for Oil" E-sign? :p
Q5echo
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
LOL @ E-Jihadi...
wish it were, but it's not mine:(
i read somewhere that Islamist are recruiting sympathizers young and old to infiltrate music, youth and sports forums and spread their disease. seriously. they were refered to as "E-jihadis"
i'm not really saying Erdega is one or that the article has any credibility but it seemed appropriate.
Who let them be so they can steal Iraq oil fields ?
US of course and it's one of the reasons why they are thriving in US occupied lands
They claim to be fighting against "Islamic extemism" but How does one explain the neocon support for albanian muslim, chechnian muslim, their war on secular Iraqi regime?
There are somewhat logical answers once you realize their motivations
Albanians aren't really Muslim though. Considering how Albanians were in a atheist communistic regime, calling them Muslims is a bit out of line. Statistics are out of date by the way. Albanians are Muslim in paper.
Anyways, Kosovars do tend to be more religious , but even then, they are the most supportive of American people not because Bush is in power, but because if it wasn't for the Americans (Clinton), you would see almost 1.5 million people dead. Now, we can stay here all day long and argue if Kosovo should be independent, but it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize that ethnic cleansing is wrong.
Kapedan
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Originally posted by Dupz
How funny is it that he got pick-pocketed when he was giving high-fives to the locals in Tirana. Just goes to show that Albania will warmly greet the Americans, only when they have something to gain from it. Once/if Kosovo gains independance, watch them turn their backs.
I think you need to get your facts straight.
Being a small country supporting the US in Europe can get you in a lot of trouble, especially when your neighbors hate them. Thats why this thing is even talked about. Make Albanians look like thiefs.
erdega
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Originally posted by Q5echo
you mean the Afghan Mujahadeen?
Saudis, Britain, Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen the list goes on.
Originally posted by Q5echo
only you and the other propagandists are accusing of stealing oil.
I agree and oil is too easy, let's talk about armed occupation and domination of the region as clinton democrats and their nato allies did to balkans.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Q5echo
your nothing but an E-Jihadi doing work for the Islamists, spreading propaganda.
by now you should know better than that
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Originally posted by Q5echo
i would guess one has little to do with the other seeing as how it wasn't a neocon, or any neocons that went into Kosovo. Chenyia? c'mon.
I would agree with that partially and in normal times it is against their agenda but a good number of neocons like Perle, Wolfowitz were very prominent in both of those conflicts supporting muslim side and both gained infamy in iraq war
