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North American women and social environment (pg. 4)
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| DJHaze |
I'm to lazy to explain myself.
It's the player not the game that makes the game what it is.
Half full Half empty, it's all up to you. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Very interesting thread, something I thought about myself, I had some questions, well sort of, I dont know how to approach this ...
Ok, I know how ... can someone please explain this: I am a guy who doesnt drink, doesnt do any kind of drugs, doesnt have any criminal record, doesnt smoke, doesnt do gangs, doesnt have any bad habits, very organized, tidy, high on hygiene, doesnt have any health problems, very active, etc ... but why is all of that given so little of look for most North American women? I mean, in Russia I can find a woman WITH NO PROBLEM with all those qualities, plus my humour and personality and additional qualities. But here in Canada women dont look for those qualities ... I dont really have a problem with women - though I do find it hard to find a LADY, a right woman, but I would like someone to please comment on this. |
Your probably just bad at picking up. I had the same problem, do some research, there's plenty of info on how to approach women more successfully, body language, verbal language, etc.. Truth be told, you can find any type of woman almost anywhere. Sure there are some cultural distinctions, but there not that marked. Another potential problem is you're probably looking for them in the wrong places. Identify where the women you are looking for usually go, and try meeting women there. Trying to meet a slut at a church, or a tidy person in a grunge concert are obviously failed strategies (not saying you're doing that, just an example).
One last note. Be wary of getting stuck in the 'friend zone'. You have to know what you're looking for in a girl. Start out by trying to get that (whatever you want), if that fails then you can be friends. Don't go about it the other way around. If what you want is sex, go for sex first, then being friends. That's all I can say from experience. Having many female friends, and not getting any from any of them is a symptom of all I've written above. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Funny, but harsh. :stongue: Seems like you have a lot of love for Italy, must've had a good history with 'em ... But I love Italian women, I love Italian music (italo-disco and italo-house), I love Italian culture, food ... I think I was Italian in one of my past lives (if there's such thing as past lives). I would be very satisfied if I end up spending the bulk of my life with a beautiful Italian or Russian woman ;-) |
I have to admit, a lot of Russian women are drop-dead gorgeous.
But then, they come second when it comes to (some of) our Montreal women :) |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Your probably just bad at picking up. I had the same problem, do some research, there's plenty of info on how to approach women more successfully, body language, verbal language, etc.. Truth be told, you can find any type of woman almost anywhere. Sure there are some cultural distinctions, but there not that marked. Another potential problem is you're probably looking for them in the wrong places. Identify where the women you are looking for usually go, and try meeting women there. Trying to meet a slut at a church, or a tidy person in a grunge concert are obviously failed strategies (not saying you're doing that, just an example).
One last note. Be wary of getting stuck in the 'friend zone'. You have to know what you're looking for in a girl. Start out by trying to get that (whatever you want), if that fails then you can be friends. Don't go about it the other way around. If what you want is sex, go for sex first, then being friends. That's all I can say from experience. Having many female friends, and not getting any from any of them is a symptom of all I've written above. |
Yup. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Trying to meet a slut at a church, or a tidy person in a grunge concert are obviously failed strategies (not saying you're doing that, just an example). |
BINGO. I actually thought about that myself, sort of suspected it, because I am not stupid, but since someone else has mentioned it, with the thinking that you have, then its true. I have to find places (where the heck though???) to meet women with my interests. Which are varied, but I have no bloody idea as to where to go and find them. Not in the nightclub, thats for sure though (I've tried that). I need to find places where women that are interested in the world (REAL stuff) are. No TV and drug-addicted girls for me ;-) never worked out ...
I have NEVER ever met a girl of my age here in Canada that has at least ONE field of interest that I have (which are many) like gardening, politics, music, organize/clean-freak, etc. Which is very sad I have to add. And when I say 'field of interest' its not just 'I like that stuff', but I DO THAT STUFF. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
BINGO. I actually thought about that myself, sort of suspected it, because I am not stupid, but since someone else has mentioned it, with the thinking that you have, then its true. I have to find places (where the heck though???) to meet women with my interests. Which are varied, but I have no bloody idea as to where to go and find them. Not in the nightclub, thats for sure though (I've tried that). I need to find places where women that are interested in the world (REAL stuff) are. No TV and drug-addicted girls for me ;-) never worked out ...
I have NEVER ever met a girl of my age here in Canada that has at least ONE field of interest that I have (which are many) like gardening, politics, music, organize/clean-freak, etc. Which is very sad I have to add. And when I say 'field of interest' its not just 'I like that stuff', but I DO THAT STUFF. |
I find mine at coffee shops, university classes and book stores. In classes pick the good looking ones that sit in the front. That means they're usually trying to get a good grade or are actually interested in the class. Book stores are a good place because if they read, that's probably a good starting point. You could try those. If your not in university classes are obviously out of the question. If you are though, clubs, volunteering activities and the like could probably also work. Just some thoughts. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
In classes pick the good looking ones that sit in the front.
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If you're trying to get the "good looking ones" then you'd better be in the top tier yourself. Are you?
Nothing personal, just an objective question. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
If you're trying to get the "good looking ones" then you'd better be in the top tier yourself. Are you?
Nothing personal, just an objective question. |
LOL, it's not hard to get "good looking ones" regardless of what "tier" you're in. In fact, those are the easiest ones and a complete waste of time, depending on what you're looking for of course. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
If you're trying to get the "good looking ones" then you'd better be in the top tier yourself. Are you?
Nothing personal, just an objective question. |
First off, yes. I'm fairly good looking, and I'm also a rarity in Vancouver so that adds to my advantage. I've also got a good body. Besides all that though, it really comes down to verbal ability, body language and attitude. Unless you're quite ugly I don't think it's very hard to pick up an attractive women. |
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| HardTranceProd |
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Though I havn't really had an intellectual conversation with a foreign chick, I find very very few of my female acquintances could hold up in a thoughtful conversation. All they care about is gossip, emotion (like my boyfriend did this and that), and drama inside their girlfriend clique (omg, that bitch!).
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| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
The artical does bring up an interesting point from my experience. I have travelled to SA,Europe, go to Mexico a lot to visit family, and have talked to a lot of people on my travels. I don't want to generalize, but the people who I have had a harder time approaching and having an interesting conversation with are Americans. It's very cliquey, people don't seem interested. I always get that vibe though with a lot of Americans, not all, but moreso than in other places. |
I agree.
Lately I've been thinking about this issue of cliques, and why they're so important in America.
Consider this: MySpace and Facebook define the lives of a huge number of girls in the US, and these sites are all about cliques. Why are so many American girls in love with these cliquey social networks? Is it a universal thing since females just love gossip, or is there something unique to US culture that makes cliques so important to girls?
Consider also that it's not just about girls. Frats/Greeks are another example of cliquey culture that seems to be unique to the US. Why is that? |
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| donnybrasco |
lol. This thread is...........wow, lol.
Hmmmm....so clique's exist only in America, Russian girls are friendly as all hell, and only American women have issues?
Seems like everyone forgot that CULTURAL differences obviously play a BIG part in how the different peoples of the world perceive each other.
I could claim (for example) that by American standards, almost ALL Russian women that I've ever met are raging c**ts! They seem like they'd be about as much fun to put your dick in to as a meat-grinder.
As for clique's? Who here, as anyone other than FOB Asian, has ever tried to go up and speak to a group of FOB Asians at a club or bar sometime? It's a good way to get roundly ignored.
And the list of things I don't get or like about foreigners could go on and on....
Now, at first glance, I could presume all that I'm saying about these experiences and the various races/cultures behind them are absolutely true! But true based on what measuring stick? The American one?
Visa-versa, could these very same people not say the very same thing about me? That I often violate their social protocol and am in fact, a "rude" or "arrogant" American?
The truth of the matter is that first generation ANYONE is likely to fundamentally not understand most people who come from outside their own culture, whether here in the U.S., or in any other part of the world.
But what makes our country truly great is that eventually, by the time the second generation is born, they DO start to get each other. And through a blend of their old-world customs...which are mixed with the melting-pot of various customs from around the world...these then uniquely form the over-all "American" culture. Eventually, generation by generation, we are forced closer and closer together, until you can't tell one of us from the other anymore and the true "melting-pot" affect has occurred, creating a unique culture unto itself.
This country is unique in that it is NOT unique. We are not a race, or even a pedigree over here! We are the mutts of the world! And if you don't like us, what you are basically saying is that you don't like the look of the whole world when it is mixed together!
In a world that is getting squeezed together more and more on an ever-shrinking planet, all I can say is; "You'd better get used to us!" Because what you are looking at is the world's first attempt at true assimilation on a grand scale. Is it always played out perfectly? No. But it is what you get when you throw all the ingredients together in the pot. If you don't like how it tastes, who exactly are you blaming in this stew? Can you really blame any one ingredient? I think not. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by donnybrasco
lol. This thread is...........wow, lol.
Hmmmm....so clique's exist only in America, Russian girls are friendly as all hell, and only American women have issues?
Seems like everyone forgot that CULTURAL differences obviously play a BIG part in how the different peoples of the world perceive each other.
I could claim (for example) that by American standards, almost ALL Russian women that I've ever met are raging c**ts! They seem like they'd be about as much fun to put your dick in to as a meat-grinder.
As for clique's? Who here, as anyone other than FOB Asian, has ever tried to go up and speak to a group of FOB Asians at a club or bar sometime? It's a good way to get roundly ignored.
And the list of things I don't get or like about foreigners could go on and on....
Now, at first glance, I could presume all that I'm saying about these experiences and the various races/cultures behind them are absolutely true! But true based on what measuring stick? The American one?
Visa-versa, could these very same people not say the very same thing about me? That I often violate their social protocol and am in fact, a "rude" or "arrogant" American?
The truth of the matter is that first generation ANYONE is likely to fundamentally not understand most people who come from outside their own culture, whether here in the U.S., or in any other part of the world.
But what makes our country truly great is that eventually, by the time the second generation is born, they DO start to get each other. And through a blend of their old-world customs...which are mixed with the melting-pot of various customs from around the world...these then uniquely form the over-all "American" culture. Eventually, generation by generation, we are forced closer and closer together, until you can't tell one of us from the other anymore and the true "melting-pot" affect has occurred, creating a unique culture unto itself.
This country is unique in that it is NOT unique. We are not a race, or even a pedigree over here! We are the mutts of the world! And if you don't like us, what you are basically saying is that you don't like the look of the whole world when it is mixed together!
In a world that is getting squeezed together more and more on an ever-shrinking planet, all I can say is; "You'd better get used to us!" Because what you are looking at is the world's first attempt at true assimilation on a grand scale. Is it always played out perfectly? No. But it is what you get when you throw all the ingredients together in the pot. If you don't like how it tastes, who exactly are you blaming in this stew? Can you really blame any one ingredient? I think not. |
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