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3/4 and 6/8 (pg. 2)
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| verminator |
| w00t about D'n'B with 2/5 :L |
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| oDrori |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ianhymers
technicly none of theys tracks are in true 3/4 time... they are actuly in 4/4 playing thirds insted of the normal 16th notes to make a "groove".. its kinda hard to exsplane.. the reason dance music is not in 3/4 is it would be really hard to dance to and almost inposable to mix..
but i could see how people would think that its 3/4. if i get some time i will post some loops of what i am talkin about but if you know anyone with a backing in clasical music or even a drummer thay could exsplain it...
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Yeah I know what U mean... You gotta listen to some waltz to see typical 3/4... Taht's what it was invented for BTW...
Anyways, in electronic music you can barely hear a difference between 3/4 and 6/8 but seriously, listen to some classic tunes... that'll emphasize! |
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| Great Outdoors |
6/8 reduces to 3/4 in the lowest denomination.. so technically they are the same. *shifts glasses*
Must be the exams getting to me :D |
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| Trancealot |
| your right about 6/8 being like 3/4. If you saw music in a 6/8 bar there are actually 3 beats in the measure but you can't look at it like that because there is really 6 beats thats are in same time of the 3/4 so it will surley have a different feel |
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| webmeister |
The 3/4 vs 6/8 thing is kinda difficult to explain.. it's more about the rhythm than the actual time.
Yes you're correct in that they're the same fraction, but 6/8 has a totally different rhythm to it.
Using capital letters for emphasis, 3/4 is:
ONE Two three
Whereas 6/8 is:
ONE Two three Four five six
6/8 has more of a flowing feel to it...
Hope this helps :D |
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| Kirby |
One main difference between 6/8 time and 3/4 time that makes them NOT interchangable is the focus on the eighth notes that 6/8 has, and the focus on the quarter notes that 3/4 has. Although the total time elapsed by 3 quarter notes is the same amount of time elapsed by 6 eighth notes is the same, 6/8 has a more bouncy feel to it than 3/4 time. 3/4 time tends to have more weight on the first beat than the other two, so it may sound similar to (where & means wait a bit of time before going on...try saying these out loud)
'BOOM & boom & boom, BOOM & boom & boom'...etc. On the other hand, 6/8 sounds like it is divided into 2, with each of those two pulses having 3 eight notes in them. (123-456, 123-456)...OR....it could be boom & boom boom & boom boom & boom...(as in, loud first and third beats in the two pulses per measure, and less significant second beat). If you have any specific other questions about music theory stuff like this question email [email protected] I'd be glad to help... |
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| Kirby |
| Oh yeah, 6/8 sounds a lot like the rhythm of skipping... a really famous classical piece that is a sort of relaxed sounding 9/8 is similar to my explanation of 6/8 in the grouping, 3 eighths per group, only in 9/8 there are 3 groups...on audiogalaxy, 'Bach - Jesu, Joy of man's desiring'...you'll definitely recognize the piece... |
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| Trancealot |
| related this music stuff to trance is a good thing/bad thing. It seems people care about the rythnm which is great because there are tunes that don't just go boom boom boom boom over and over which I guess is 4/4 --I like to hear off beats so proboably there be many rest. You should ask a composer(producer of trance) about this because even they musit know about this stuff. Unless they have incredible good ears because I taught myslef piano by ear but I know I am not even close to someone who can play it correctly. Patients is the key to play with ear. |
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| oDrori |
| Folks, while you're discussing it... please try to give your recommendations... That's the original purpose of the topic... |
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| patticus |
ya as posted earlier i seriously doubt there's any trance in 3/4 time... ive never heard any. very likely just thirds over 4 beats.
which is different.
and for the guy who doesnt know what 3/4 is, just count 123,123,123,123 fast.. with the emphasis on the ones.
and try to count along to trance on every beat with it. you cant:)
6/8 and 3/4 are interchangeable at least in the sense that if you composed a piece in 6/8, in Reason or something, you could easily change it to 3/4 and have it sound exactly the same
(tho that would be a pain in the ass) |
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| davinox |
Overdrive is in 4/4...it just sounds like it's in 3/4 alot of times...
What is that awesome beat that's in Punk, Gouryella Gouryella, Dance Valley 2001, and several other tracks?
If you don't know what i'm talking about...
3:48 Ferry Corsten - Punk
3:19 System F - Dance Valley 2001
7:23 Gouryella - Gouryella
4:27 Push - Tranzy State of Mind (2002 Club Mix) |
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| patticus |
| quote: | Originally posted by davinox
Overdrive is in 4/4...it just sounds like it's in 3/4 alot of times...
What is that awesome beat that's in Punk, Gouryella Gouryella, Dance Valley 2001, and several other tracks?
If you don't know what i'm talking about...
3:48 Ferry Corsten - Punk
3:19 System F - Dance Valley 2001
7:23 Gouryella - Gouryella
4:27 Push - Tranzy State of Mind (2002 Club Mix) |
just a breakbeat.. in 4/4 time. breakbeats are always in 4/4 time, just without a 4/4 kick drum |
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