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Silky Johnson
I drink lots of water and moisturize my skin, even though it's oily. ALL skin needs moisture.

I also wash my face with a cleanser that contains salicylic acid, and at night I use Panoxyl 0.5%(active ingredient benzoyl peroxide) GEL (it's water based, which is less harsh on the skin). Both of those are known to be the most effective in killing the bacteria that causes pimples.

But yeah the key is to moisturize, especially when using those products, because they rape the skin!

Oh and for a spot treatment I use tea tree oil. It has healing properties that help to reduce scarring and stuff.

I don't really have problem acne, but I used to get break-outs once a month. Since I started this regimen I've pretty much had no pimples.

If your skin's like mine, this'll probably work for you too.
Cro_Addict
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Originally posted by The Highroller

While I agree that Accutane is an effective treatment, I think anyone using it should think long and hard about it first. The negative side effects can be pretty severe. One of the more serious ones is depression that has even lead some teenagers to suicide. I find that doctor's are way too quick to prescribe this medication.

Without taking care of my face, my acne can get pretty bad, but after trying Accutane for one week, I through it in the garbage and never tried it again.



It does have side effects. However using the suicide thing, which i did metnion earlier as a deterent is ridiculous. We put ourselves in situations almost on a daily bases where our chance of death is much higher...

As I said...it is the LAST thing to do. And giving a product 1 week is not doing it justice. It takes about 4 weeks for it to start working effectively.
FunkyCrew
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Originally posted by The Highroller
You make it sound like in 100% of cases, this will only work slightly. Just because it didn't work for you, doesn't mean it won't work for everyone else. Your skin condition is not identical to everyone else's.


but most less sever acne cases are very similar, at least skin types who suffer are either oily, combination or senstive. And yes, I can say I went through enough of acne stages to say I know what I'm talking about

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[color=ccff00]It should be the last thing you do after you've tried the methods I suggested above. A very large percentage of teenagers and young adults have acne, and if every single one of them went to a dermatologist right away before trying to solve the problem themselves first, it would over burden the health care system. Your attitude of seeing a specialist before you change your pillow case may be preventing someone from getting medical attention who actually really needs to see a specialist immediately.


I think just relying on clean hands and changing a pillow case are good methods for people who suffer from occasional pimple on the forehead... if a person has acne on most parts of the face, those methods are just precautionary, not a cure. Dermatologist appointment usually lasts max. up to 15 minutes if it's a checkup, so that's hardly a burden. If anything, doctors are there to help, not for us to think that we're such a burden :conf:
Abercrombie
I haven't got acne is so long... but what I do get is the similar-looking ingrown hair that occurs every now and then a few days after shaving.

That ingrown hair seems to grow backwards, creating a huge bump, and no ointment or prescription can clear out (even though sometimes a whitehead develops), that the only thing you can do is dig it out with a pair of tweezers and a needle. Anyone else gets that occasionally, and do you do anything different?
The Highroller
quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
It does have side effects. However using the suicide thing, which i did metnion earlier as a deterent is ridiculous. We put ourselves in situations almost on a daily bases where our chance of death is much higher...


How is it ridiculous? Roche themselves puts suicide as a side-effect, and we all know how some drug companies like to down play the side effects of their drugs.

Here's one of the many websites for those thinking of taking accutane:

http://www.accutane-suicide-help.com/

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Accutane has been linked to serious side effects with more than 1,300 psychiatric side effects including severe depression and more than 66 cases of suicide. Accutane is also related to serious Birth Defects, Ulcerative Colitis, Crohn's Disease and Inflammatory Bowel Disorder.

Possible serious side effects of taking Accutane include birth defects and mental disorders

Mental problems and suicide. Some patients, while taking Accutane or soon after stopping Accutane, have become depressed or developed other serious mental problems. Signs of these problems include feelings of sadness, irritability, unusual tiredness, trouble concentrating, and loss of appetite. Some patients taking Accutane have had thoughts about hurting themselves or putting an end to their own lives. There were reports that some of these people did not appear depressed. No one knows if Accutane caused these behaviors or if they would have happened even if the person did not take Accutane.

Stop using Accutane and tell your provider right away if you:

* start to feel sad or have crying spells
* lose interest in your usual activities
* have changes in your normal sleep patterns
* become more irritable than usual
* lose your appetite
* become unusually tired
* have trouble concentrating
* withdraw from family and friends
* start having thoughts about hurting yourself/myself or taking your/my own life (suicidal thoughts)
Cro_Addict
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
How is it ridiculous? Roche themselves puts suicide as a side-effect, and we all know how some drug companies like to down play the side effects of their drugs.

Here's one of the many websites for those thinking of taking accutane:

http://www.accutane-suicide-help.com/



i am not trying to downplay it. I was aware of the risk, and my dermatologist has made that risk very aware to me, and on every check up has asked me about how i felt and all that stuff.


Oh and about overburdening the health care system. I pay my taxes...so if i need to see 10 doctors a day..i will do that.
The Highroller
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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
And giving a product 1 week is not doing it justice. It takes about 4 weeks for it to start working effectively.


No, but after the severity of the side effect I started getting after less than one week, I would have been a fool to continue the treatment.


As someone who has had pretty bad acne if not taken care of properly for almost 10 years, I know what it's like. I know why you would want to take accutane, but think of it this way: are you really willing to risk some of the serious side effect listed above for vanity? Is it really worth it? I didn't think it was, and I explored alternative options which are working very well for me.
Cro_Addict
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
No, but after the severity of the side effect I started getting after less than one week, I would have been a fool to continue the treatment.


As someone who has had pretty bad acne if not taken care of properly for almost 10 years, I know what it's like. I know why you would want to take accutane, but think of it this way: are you really willing to risk some of the serious side effect listed above for vanity? Is it really worth it? I didn't think it was, and I explored alternative options which are working very well for me.


so you actually were getting depressed?

I chose to do the treatment and it worked and i have no big side effects. What i am just trying to say is that everyone can make their own choice.
FunkyCrew
quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
As someone who has had pretty bad acne if not taken care of properly for almost 10 years, I know what it's like. I know why you would want to take accutane, but think of it this way: are you really willing to risk some of the serious side effect listed above for vanity? Is it really worth it? I didn't think it was, and I explored alternative options which are working very well for me.


totally agree.. I have a few friends who went through Acutane treatment, and I also did some research on it in the past, and I never understood how can anyone take such a massive health risk
Provocative_boi
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Originally posted by Abercrombie
I haven't got acne is so long... but what I do get is the similar-looking ingrown hair that occurs every now and then a few days after shaving.

That ingrown hair seems to grow backwards, creating a huge bump, and no ointment or prescription can clear out (even though sometimes a whitehead develops), that the only thing you can do is dig it out with a pair of tweezers and a needle. Anyone else gets that occasionally, and do you do anything different?



Well i dont get ingrown hair but what i do get is this odd pimple(just one) in different parts like:-

Shoulder,forehead,arm,leg....if i dont pick on it it goes away in like 3 or 4 days. :conf:

The Highroller
quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I think just relying on clean hands and changing a pillow case are good methods for people who suffer from occasional pimple on the forehead... if a person has acne on most parts of the face, those methods are just precautionary, not a cure.


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And yes, I can say I went through enough of acne stages to say I know what I'm talking about


As someone who knows what they're talking about, you seem to be forgetting one of the basic facts of acne treatment which is that acne cannot be cured. You can only take precautionary measures.

I am not saying that the methods I listed above will help treat people with severe or cystic acne. I wrote that because there are people who have mild acne that could be prevented using these methods, but think it's severe, that go to a dermatologist and get prescribed accutane right off the bat. This actually just happened to one of my friends and he barely has any acne at all!

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Dermatologist appointment usually lasts max. up to 15 minutes if it's a checkup, so that's hardly a burden. If anything, doctors are there to help, not for us to think that we're such a burden :conf:


In case you didn't notice, when you try to get an appointment with a dermatologist, you have to wait for weeks. Sometimes months. This is because there are other people waiting to see the dermatologist. The doctor only has a finite amount of time.


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Originally posted by Cro_Addict
Oh and about overburdening the health care system. I pay my taxes...so if i need to see 10 doctors a day..i will do that.


I'm not saying that you shouldn't ever see a doctor if you need one, but if someone has a few pimples and never changes their pillow case, and drinks pop instead of water all day, then maybe that person should change his/her life style a bit before running to a doctor and wasting their time. The doctor will probably give the person the list of things I recommended above anyway before prescribing them any medication.
Cro_Addict
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Originally posted by FunkyCrew
totally agree.. I have a few friends who went through Acutane treatment, and I also did some research on it in the past, and I never understood how can anyone take such a massive health risk


I really think that people make it seem worse than it is.

Seriously, next time you go get any prescription...if you don't get the literature that comes with it...Ask for it and read it. The risks that you will read will seem not worth taking the medication no matter what its for. The fact is that its minimal.

As for why anyone would take such a massive health risk... have you ever seen people with extremely sevre acne...it gets pretty bad

CLICK HERE FOR IMAGE

For cases above...Accutane is the only option.
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